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Josef Buecker
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Posted on 08-10-2008 14:49
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Hello Forum,
what is the ID of this fly? Hagen, NRW, Germany, alder marshland, 175msm, October 7th 2008
Best wishes, Josef
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Andrzej
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look like Palloptera usta for me but obviously Pallopteridae member but you should wait for Jan answer Smile
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jorgemotalmeida
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Palloptera ustulata not Palloptera usta. Smile
 
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I'm not sure but Jorges ID is not correct for me. According to the picture gallery and the Key to the Europaean Russian part the crossveins by P. ustulata are not tinged nor dusted Smile
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Andrzej wrote:
I'm not sure but Jorges ID is not correct for me. According to the picture gallery and the Key to the Europaean Russian part the crossveins by P. ustulata are not tinged nor dusted Smile
Andrzej


hmm.. Andrzej, I was fixing... not IDing. Smile it is not certainly ustulata. But I WAS WRONG. There is really a P. usta. Frown Errare humanum est.
 
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I agree with Andrzej.
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Andrey Ozerov
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I think it is Toxoneura venusta (Loew)
 
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From Bei-Bienko:

Posterior half of frons with snow white coating, Mesonotum brownish yellow. Wings with dark spot on subcostal cell, broad brown border in apical half of wing [...] and similar broad border on posterior crossvein.... Palloptera venusta.

Hence, I think Andrey Ozerov is right to think this is Toxoneura (or, Palloptera) venusta.

On a side note: this once again makes me think that one almost never should trust the keys in Bei-Bienko when it comes to describing the colour of the thorax, I guess different colours of brown is notoriously hard to translate from russian into english?
 
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I think the expertize of Andrey is more than enough. Toxoneura venusta.
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