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 Muscidae: Hydrotaea? --> Mydaea cf. nebulosa
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 24-09-2008 18:18
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14182 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! A 6 mm fly from September-21, at a hedge, northwest Germany. I'm not sure, what this is. Maybe Hydrotaea? Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [69.27Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 24-09-2008 22:12 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 24-09-2008 18:19
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14182 Joined: 11.09.04 |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 24-09-2008 18:19
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14182 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #3
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 24-09-2008 18:20
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14182 Joined: 11.09.04 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-09-2008 18:35
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No, it isn't Hydrotaea. I think Mydaea. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 24-09-2008 19:08
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14182 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: No, it isn't Hydrotaea. I think Mydaea. Thanks, Nikita! I had also thought of Mydaea, but the rather small size seemed to fit better for Hydrotaea. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 24-09-2008 20:27
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
What makes it a Mydaea..? (I thought it could be Phaonia atriceps..3.7-5.9mm) Only curious....  Greatings Joke |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-09-2008 21:58
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9462 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi Joke. 1. It isn't Ph.atriceps - glossy black species. 2. I can't see Phaonia's pd on f3 3. It may be some Helina, but I don't think so. 4. My test looks alike Mydaea nebulosa 5. We'll never be sure without collected specimen, I'm affraid Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 24-09-2008 22:08
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14182 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Nikita! Nikita Vikhrev wrote: 4. My test looks alike Mydaea nebulosa 5. We'll never be sure without collected specimen, I'm affraid That's always the problem, when you only photograph... But I am happy with the genus or a 'cf. nebulosa', thanks! Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 24-09-2008 22:18
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Hi Joke. 1. It isn't Ph.atriceps - glossy black species. 2. I can't see Phaonia's pd on f3 3. It may be some Helina, but I don't think so. 4. My test looks alike Mydaea nebulosa 5. We'll never be sure without collected specimen, I'm affraid Nikita Thanks for your answer, I thought that Ph.atriceps had a bluish shine! (and also with a specimen, I find it often difficult...  )Greatings Joke |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-09-2008 22:22
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9462 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I meaned that Ph.atriceps has not grey dusting on scutum.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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