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 Scathophagidae, not Scathophaga.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 09-05-2006 14:43
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9218 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Mosc. reg, 07 may, 4-4,5mm, in grass. It is myfirst attempt to deal with Scathophagidae key. My result - Amaurosoma flavipes. Correct? Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [78.52Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 09-05-2006 15:52
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In current nomenclature that would be Nanna flavipes and I think that is possible. Need to check, though, because maybe it could be N. inermis, as well.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 09-05-2006 16:20
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9218 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Paul. I found Amaurosoma on Kahis'S site http://www.astro.helsinki.fi/~kahanpaa/diptera/list/online/node92.html and decided that I can stop nomenclature chsking .In may key f1 yellow or with black line on dorsal part of f1. I decided that only black line is the case. If so - N. flavipes. N. inermis - f1 completely or mostly black. Nikita P.S. Spend a hell lot of time searching your Brachyopa elsewhere, but not in Syrphidae family 
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| Kahis |
Posted on 09-05-2006 17:04
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It seems that Nanna/Amaurosoma is a matter of opinion; I'm not quite sure which specialist to believe in this case. Sifner (2003) uses Amaurosoma and details why he think it is the valid name. Sifner (2003), The family Scathophagidae (Diptera) of the Chech and Slovak Rebublics (with notes on selected Palaearctic taxa), Acta Mus. Nat. Pragae, Series B, Nat. Hist. 59(1-2):1-90 - an excellent paper, but suffering from unacceptably poor english (including some sections that simply make no sense at all  )
Edited by Kahis on 09-05-2006 17:04 Kahis |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 09-05-2006 22:36
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9218 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Kahis. My choise - Amaurosoma (sounds better), but unfortunely I already printed labels with Nanna. Let it be so till experts's final decision. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-05-2006 14:35
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9218 Joined: 24.05.05 |
As usualy, collected by Black. Another species I think. Legs - all yellow, pleuras partly shining - N./A. brevifrons? Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [79.31Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Robert Nash |
Posted on 12-05-2006 16:53
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Member Location: Ulster Museum, Belfast, Ireland Posts: 288 Joined: 11.11.05 |
Noted Nikita's comment "Spend a hell lot of time searching your Brachyopa elsewhere, but not in Syrphidae family" In collections Brachyopa are often amongst undetermined Muscidae/Anthomyiidae. Perhaps not surprisingly They don't look like Syrphidae. Sunny in Ireland today  Robert Nice photo Nikita |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-05-2006 20:17
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9218 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi Robert. During long time you didn't appear at forum. Glad to hear you back! Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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but don't see the image in the post.