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Tephritidae [->Platystomatidae]
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Posted on 06-09-2008 08:34
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Hello,

Seen in the P?rigord (south of France), 270 masl, 27/VII/2008, size about 5mm.
I can't find anythink like this in the gallery.
Thanks in advance for any pointer.
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no, Pierre. This is Platystomatidae - Platystoma sp.
 
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Certainly a Platystoma, but no further ID from this picture is possible.
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Hello,

thanks to both of you.
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Hello,

Same place, same date, same size, but the body colour is very different.
pierred attached the following image:


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pierred wrote:
Hello,

Same place, same date, same size, but the body colour is very different.


Sciomyzidae,
Trypetoptera punctulata

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The very famous fly every famous Tephritidae expert tried to determine using tephritid keys (of course when he or she was just a young newbee). Cool
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Well, I understand that I'm in a very good company.

Thanks.
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Nosferatumyia wrote:
The very famous fly every famous Tephritidae expert tried to determine using tephritid keys (of course when he or she was just a young newbee). Cool


Guilty as charged Smile

...not that I would call myself a Tephritid expert, but still.
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Back to the first pictures, I'd hazard a guess at Platystoma lugubre in which the two hyaline spots apicad of the terminus of R1, are divided by a third spot in cell R2+3. To my knowledge no other species in Platystoma has this pattern. Looking closely, it appears that the third spot actually joins the proximal of the two R1 spots, making appear that the proximal spot is branched ... possibly variation ... Val?
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