Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Emmesomyia
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 08-08-2008 17:15
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9511 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I'm in doubts about species: terg6 wide, but shining, left f3 with 1 short pv, right with 2 long pv. Please, is it possible to distinguish females?! Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [113.96Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 08-08-2008 21:48
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
left f3 with 1 short pv, right with 2 long pv. Are you meaning that the left femur has a short pv, and the right femur has 2 long pv...  ..........do I understand that the setae on the left femur can by different on the right femur.Only try to learn...  Joke Edited by javanerkelens on 08-08-2008 22:00 |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 10-08-2008 09:23
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
Nikita: I assume that you have said Emmesomyia because there is a seta just below the wing base? (on anepimeron) Tergite 6 all shining=E. grisea RD Tergite 6 grey dusted on hind margin=socia Fall. javanerkelens: Unfortunately in some specimens the setae can vary on left or right legs. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 10-08-2008 09:48
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9511 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Joke, I'm learning too, listen to Expert  Thank you Michael. 1. Of course, rather strong seta on pteropleuron present. 2. On this specimen terg6 good visible and completely shining. 3. Females of Emmesomyia are common on various excrements in forest. But I have never seen a male. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 13-08-2008 05:44
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9511 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I've come back from Kursk region. Dear Michael, 1. Is it correct that E.grisea is more northen species and E.socia more southern? 2. Is it correct that in field E.socia is generally bigger and with somewhat more glossy/shining body than E.grisea? Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 14-08-2008 10:17
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9511 Joined: 24.05.05 |
P.S. I'm especially interesting about this ID because Emmesomyia is one of the most common prey of S.stercoraria
Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [112.13Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 14-08-2008 21:48
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
I will have to look up the distribution of grisea and socia, Offhand I can't answer the questions! |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 15-08-2008 08:12
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9511 Joined: 24.05.05 |
In Kursk region I collected first time in my life one male of Emmesomyia. Male is E.socia without doubts.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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