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Coenosia sp. (on advice Nikita Vikhrev)
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Posted on 28-07-2008 21:08
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Could it be that this fly (sice about 4mm) found in Giethoorn is a Coenosia mollicula.
Palpi black and mid femur whit ad seta.

Greatings Joke
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Posted on 28-07-2008 21:49
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Coenosia is correct.
I don't think it is C.mollicula.
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Coenosia is correct.
I don't think it is C.mollicula.


Oke ! I wil look again..Grin

Thanks Joke
 
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Another try...
But I must say, that I always get confused by those ..av+ad+pv+pd on the legs, after 20 times looking, I see hairs everywhere....

Oke...I think now that it could be Coenosia rufipalpis (Meigen 1826)

Keep trying.....JokePfft
 
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Dear Joke, it is female, so it is difficult even with specimen. As for me, I can't say more.
My advise: during first steps whith key's ID, try to start with males. The best - with a seria of males.
Nikita
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during first steps whith key's ID, try to start with males. The best - with a seria of males.


I wil do !!
(always difficult those females...including me.....PfftGrin)

Thanks Joke
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I can't say more

The fact that I can't say more doesn't mean that your ID is wrong, it well may be Coenosia rufipalpis.
By the way, soon you will get this experiens - when your ID is correct and everything perfectly fit, you will be sure that your ID is correct without anybody's confirmation.
Best wishes,
Nikita
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