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| Isidro |
Posted on 22-07-2008 10:23
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2088 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Two days ago at Anz?nigo, Huesca, NE Spain at 600 meters in Pre-Pyrenees. In white flowers. 13-15 mm long. Can be an Stratiomys? Which one? Thanks. Regards |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 23-07-2008 00:25
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2088 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Heeeeey! |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 24-07-2008 09:52
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2088 Joined: 26.04.07 |
IMPOSSIBLE that a so big and spectcular fly don't we known by ANYBODY in this forum!!!!!  |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-07-2008 10:47
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
It is Stratiomys but don't have my key here.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 24-07-2008 10:55
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2088 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks a lot! At least I have the genus... ?Could be S. cenisia or S. hispanica? (cited for my zone) |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-07-2008 11:43
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Again, I do not have my key here. 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Maddin |
Posted on 24-07-2008 21:14
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 Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
It looks to me like a typical southern female of Stratiomys lingicornis. It is surely not cenisia or hispanica because these species have big yellow spots on the abdomen...
Martin Hauser |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 25-07-2008 00:08
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2088 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Longicornis again??? But this one http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=14418 was three times more smaller and had a different colour... |
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| Maddin |
Posted on 25-07-2008 00:22
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Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
There is not much difference between 12 mm and 13-15 mm and the abdominal pattern is the same, and the color differences are partially due to the gender differences and a bit the camera... Still rather sure about the ID, the only other option would be singularior...
Martin Hauser |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 25-07-2008 09:44
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2088 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Yes, maybe this one was slightly bigger than I said first: better 15-18 mm... same size than S. potamida. Well, then I'll put as longicornis too. Thanks a lot Martin!!! What are differences between singularior and longicornis? |
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| Maddin |
Posted on 25-07-2008 17:13
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Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
Isidro wrote: Yes, maybe this one was slightly bigger than I said first: better 15-18 mm... same size than S. potamida. Well, then I'll put as longicornis too. Thanks a lot Martin!!! What are differences between singularior and longicornis? From Rozkosny: -Scape slender and long, about 5-6 times as long as pedicel; abdominal side-markings absent or very small, larger only in some South European specimens; male synsternum heart-shaped; female yellow frontal spots fused with facial patches (Figs. 52: 1-9) S. longicomis (Scopoli) - Scape shorter, only about 4 times as long as pedicel; abdominal side-markings distinct, usually also enlarged at anterior comers of terga; male synsternum long and slender; female yellow frontal spots mostly isolated (Figs. 55: 1-1 1) . . . . . . . . . S. singulanor (Harris) Martin Hauser |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 25-07-2008 23:50
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2088 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks a lot for this key. Then I suppose than both specimens as S. longicornis are correct. |
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