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again a muscid -> Anthomyiidae
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Michael Becker |
Posted on 07-07-2008 19:56
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Hello, what fly is this? I found it last month in a forest in western germany. Thanks, Michael Michael Becker attached the following image: ![]() [70.79Kb] Edited by Michael Becker on 09-07-2008 05:29 |
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javanerkelens |
Posted on 07-07-2008 20:12
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![]() Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Looks to me as a Anthomyiidae. Greatings Joke |
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Michael Becker |
Posted on 08-07-2008 18:55
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Hello, I'm not convinced. I just scanned through the Anthomyiidae and Muscidae galleries again. Well, for me it looks now exactly as the Helina sp. in Muscidae. Could this be? Michael |
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Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 08-07-2008 19:30
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![]() Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Joke is right, it is an Anthomyiidae.
Stephane. |
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Michael Becker |
Posted on 08-07-2008 20:54
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Hello! Sorry for my scepticism. I always get these two families wrong. In the Anthomyiidae gallery I can't find anything, that seems similar to me, so I am afraid, I have to label the pictures as "unknown Anthomyiidae". Thanks both of you, Michael |
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crex |
Posted on 08-07-2008 21:27
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![]() Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
If you change the title of the thread maybe Ackland can find a genus for you ... |
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Michael Becker |
Posted on 09-07-2008 05:30
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
crex wrote: If you change the title of the thread maybe Ackland can find a genus for you ... I try it. |
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Michael Ackland |
Posted on 09-07-2008 10:06
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
It is an anthomyiid, but I am sorry I can''t suggest a genus. To do this I would need to know some details such as 1. Is the ventral surface of costal vein setulose? 2. Arista hairing? 3. prealar seta length? There don''t seem to be any cruciate interfrontal setae? This might suggest a Pegomya female, but then I would need to know about the penultimate sternites of the abdomen. Is the arista plumose? Re attempting to name anthomyiids (especially females) from photos- that way madness lies!! |
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Michael Becker |
Posted on 09-07-2008 20:12
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Ok, thank you again to all of you. I know that Anthomyiidae are very difficult or in most cases impossible to determine from fotos. I always hope, that I got a specimen from the few determinable percents. Michael |
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