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again a muscid -> Anthomyiidae
Michael Becker
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Hello,

what fly is this? I found it last month in a forest in western germany.

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Michael
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Looks to me as a Anthomyiidae.

Greatings Joke
 
Michael Becker
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Hello,

I'm not convinced. I just scanned through the Anthomyiidae and Muscidae galleries again. Well, for me it looks now exactly as the Helina sp. in Muscidae. Could this be?

Michael
 
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Joke is right, it is an Anthomyiidae.
Stephane.
 
Michael Becker
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Hello!

Sorry for my scepticism. I always get these two families wrong.

In the Anthomyiidae gallery I can't find anything, that seems similar to me, so I am afraid, I have to label the pictures as "unknown Anthomyiidae".

Thanks both of you,
Michael
 
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If you change the title of the thread maybe Ackland can find a genus for you ...
 
Michael Becker
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crex wrote:
If you change the title of the thread maybe Ackland can find a genus for you ...


I try it.
 
Michael Ackland
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It is an anthomyiid, but I am sorry I can''t suggest a genus. To do this I would need to know some details such as 1. Is the ventral surface of costal vein setulose? 2. Arista hairing? 3. prealar seta length?

There don''t seem to be any cruciate interfrontal setae? This might suggest a Pegomya female, but then I would need to know about the penultimate sternites of the abdomen. Is the arista plumose?

Re attempting to name anthomyiids (especially females) from photos- that way madness lies!!
 
Michael Becker
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Ok,

thank you again to all of you. I know that Anthomyiidae are very difficult or in most cases impossible to determine from fotos. I always hope, that I got a specimen from the few determinable percents.

Michael
 
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