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 Lauxaniidae - Calliopum sp. (1st) and Piophilidae - Stearibia nigriceps (2nd, 3rd)
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-04-2008 15:06
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi I found my first piophilids this week in G?is (1.4). They have around 4 mm -5 mm length. These were found on corpse of sheep in advanced decomposition. Edit: not a piophilid..  EDIT Title changed from "Lonchaeidae and Piophilidae" to "Lauxaniidae - Calliopum sp. (1st) and Piophilidae - Stearibia nigriceps (2nd, 3rd)" jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [180.76Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 07-04-2008 13:35 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 06-04-2008 15:14
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9442 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I'm affraid, not yet, Jorge. There are a hell lot of carrion visitors, I think this one is Lonchaeidae. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-04-2008 15:20
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
hmm.. i must continue searching for them.  Also I thought in Lonchaeidae... but I never saw a Lonchaeid (the other lonchaeids never flight as I saw this Tuesady) flying like this fly. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-04-2008 15:26
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
another..
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 06-04-2008 15:34
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9442 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Jorge, on second photo - Piophilidae, but I think that pinned fly is not Piophilidae.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-04-2008 15:51
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
aha. So I really SPOTTED Piophilidae in the same corpse. I will take in next weekend photos of possible piophilids I caught. |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 06-04-2008 17:19
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2152 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hi Jorge, The specimen on your first foto doesn't belong to the family Lonchaeidae. The colour of the halters is all wrong. Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-04-2008 17:43
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Jan, if it is not Lonchaeidae (indeed it was my first thought before the Piophilidae...) what this could be? Milichiidae is not, by sure. This fly has a very dark green metallic colour. And the parafacialia and gena is even darker. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 06-04-2008 18:18
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
It could be a Calliopum or something like this...
Stephane. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-04-2008 18:22
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Calliopum has striped eyes. This fly doesn't have... |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-04-2008 18:23
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
photo of the head for the first specimen.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 06-04-2008 20:56
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9442 Joined: 24.05.05 |
If it isn't Lonchaeidae, than may be all images are Piophilidae? Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 06-04-2008 21:32
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Looks to be a Parapiophila sp. Guess, you are lucky as there is a few or no piophilids recorded from Iberian Peninsula. Ask Andrei Ozerov, he is a real expert on that family. Val |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-04-2008 21:36
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Thanks Nikita, Jan, St?phane and Valery. I will contact Andrey Ozerov.  How easy is to make mistakes in these flies. Next weekend I will try to take more photos so we can reach the genus, at least, |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 07-04-2008 07:18
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: photo of the head for the first specimen. I thought something was off when I looked yesterday but now I have found it. This frontal picture is NOT of the first specimen given in this thread. The head picture indeed shows a piophilid but notice the absence of metallic shine on the specimen and the absence of orbital setae. Both are present in the first picture of the thread. It still seems likely to me that that picture is of a Calliopum. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Andrey Ozerov |
Posted on 07-04-2008 08:38
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Member Location: Posts: 63 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Stearibia nigriceps (Meigen) is present on second and third fotos. My colleague A.Shatalkin examined first foto and agree with P.Beuk that it is Calliopum. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 07-04-2008 13:33
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
You are right Paul. But I'm surprised to know that the fly is really a Calliopum. I will check my specimen in Friday. Thanks Andrey. I will look more for more corpses... maybe crabs, too. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 07-04-2008 16:35
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9442 Joined: 24.05.05 |
The specimen on your first foto doesn't belong to the family Lonchaeidae. The colour of the halters is all wrong. Thank you Jan, I didn't know this useful information  Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 07-04-2008 16:54
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Nice to know that the colour of halteres can discard lonchaeids in the cases it appears apparently one of it. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 07-04-2008 19:13
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
However, there are other families with species that have black halteres, for example in the Agromyzidae.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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