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 Hilara (Empididae) - two dead, one alive
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| Sundew |
Posted on 14-03-2008 01:06
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Hello, Recently I found three empidid flies in the repotting room of our institute: two dead ones within the double-glazed window, one alive. I suppose all could be representatives of genus Rhamphomyia, because their proboscises are rather short. For a better comparison, I don't stick to the "one fly per thread" rule in this case. Can we get to a closer ID? Thanks! Sundew Here comes the bigger of the dead ones. Sundew attached the following image:  [164.65Kb] Edited by Sundew on 15-03-2008 12:27 |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 14-03-2008 01:06
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3938 Joined: 28.07.07 |
The smaller of the dead ones is darker and has a shorter proboscis.
Sundew attached the following image:  [165.73Kb] Edited by Sundew on 14-03-2008 01:07 |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 14-03-2008 01:09
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3938 Joined: 28.07.07 |
The living one did not want to sit under the hot lamp of the stereo microscope, so these pics must do...
Sundew attached the following image:  [152.22Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 14-03-2008 07:52
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
All are Hilara and these are not the easiest to identify. Maybe Igor or Adrian can do something with the photos, I'd prefer to ID them from the actual specimens.
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| Adrian |
Posted on 14-03-2008 13:34
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Certainly Hilara I would say. I could make some guess as to species group but Hilara is very hard to be sure about from a photo. INdeed for many Hilara you can only really be sure if you confrim a det by dissecting out (or at least viewing) the male genitalia Sorry can't be of more help cheers Adrian |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 15-03-2008 12:27
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3938 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Hilara is a new genus to me, so I am grateful and happy. Though... the magnifications of the abdomen tips (genitalia) of the dead ones are obviously not sufficient for putting them into a group. Paul, I suppose the genus is not so fascinating that you would be eager to get the two dead specimens? And if yes, how should I send them (re-wetted with 70% ethanol to overcome their brittleness)? Anyhow, if it weren't for a considerable progress in science, you should not waste your precious time with troublesome determination just to supply me with a name or two - Hilara spec. is ok for me! Kind regards, Sundew |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 15-03-2008 20:03
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
You can send them anyway you like and you can ascertain they remain intact. Putting thm in alcool for a while may wok but you'd need to make certain there is lillte space they can move around and still get damaged.
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