Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Carcelia spec or Miltogramminae ?
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| Una Owen |
Posted on 03-10-2025 00:22
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Member Location: Posts: 8 Joined: 27.03.25 |
Hello! I need help with the ID of this fly. Date: 2025/05/13 Location: natural garden with small lake, Vienna Basin, Lower Austria Size 7mm I thought it might be Carcelia spec (Tachinidae) but then I got the suggestion that it might actually be a fly of the subfamily Miltogramminae (Sarcophagidae). The question has remained open until now. Can anyone resolve it? Greetings Una Una Owen attached the following image:  [291.26Kb] Edited by Una Owen on 03-10-2025 00:23 |
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| Una Owen |
Posted on 03-10-2025 00:24
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Member Location: Posts: 8 Joined: 27.03.25 |
Second picture
Una Owen attached the following image:  [296.84Kb] |
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| eklans |
Posted on 03-10-2025 14:09
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4402 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Helo Una, I think Miltogramminae is correct and it's probably a Metopia sp.
Greetings, Eric |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-10-2025 16:08
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19248 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Looks like a Sarcophaga sl. to me. Theo |
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| WkarenBbrewW |
Posted on 07-10-2025 07:35
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Member Location: Posts: 6 Joined: 02.10.25 |
Una Owen wrote: Hello! I need help with the ID of this fly. Date: 2025/05/13 Location: natural garden with small lake, Vienna Basin, Lower Austria Size 7mm I thought it might be Carcelia spec (Tachinidae) but then I got the suggestion that it might actually be a fly of the subfamily Miltogramminae (Sarcophagidae). The question has remained open until now. Can anyone resolve it? Greetings Una Hey Una, Interesting find! I can see why there’s confusion, it does look a bit like both. The slimmer body makes me lean toward Miltogramminae, but a clearer shot of the antennae or wings would really help confirm it. |
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| Una Owen |
Posted on 07-10-2025 14:36
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Member Location: Posts: 8 Joined: 27.03.25 |
Thank you all very much for your helpful answers! I can understand now why this fly caused ID problems. Re antennae and wings: Unluckily these two pictures were the only ones I was able to get. The fly was very elusive and I was not able to sight it again. I will stick with Miltogramminae (Sarcophagidae). I urgently needed some kind of identification for a garden biodiversity project, but for this cause the proper subfamily will suffice. I had hoped for a Tachinidae since (understandably due to frequency of occurence ) I have documented much more Sarcophagidae but: You can´t always get what you want :-) Thanks again and greetings! Una Edited by Una Owen on 07-10-2025 14:39 |
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