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 Thai28. Fly with unusual foretarsus.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-01-2006 23:26
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9480 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Pattaya, shore of small pool, 5-7mm. 
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| Kahis |
Posted on 25-01-2006 16:07
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Oh uh ah hmm. Somewhat close to Lispe (Lispinae, Muscidae). These are quite atypical muscids and often have modified legs (as in this case).
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 25-01-2006 17:08
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9480 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Kahis. In "Netherlands checklist..." Lispe is in Coenosinae. Looking for another opinions and information in www I immidatly discover Lispe in company with my another new friend - Ochthera sp., as two fellow predator on Simulidae in such a godblessed place as Upper Volta (http://www.bondy.ird.fr/pleins_textes/pleins_textes_5/b_fdi_08-09/10550.pdf). Looks like some "signal" to me  .Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 18-12-2008 16:06
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9480 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Coming back to this 3 year ago fly. Now I know too that it is Lispe, now I even know that it is Lispe of undescribed species. It is a funny situation, I have only image and I can't find this Lispe again (so far) Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 21-02-2009 18:24
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9480 Joined: 24.05.05 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 21-02-2009 18:32
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Incredible adaptations ... I wonder if the fore tarsus is as diagnostic as the male genitalia? |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 21-02-2009 20:38
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I think you should take Rui's video camera back to Thailand with you and discover how these feet work. Those long bristle-like empodia look very tickly! 
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 21-02-2009 20:56
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
wow! another crazy fly. I think we must get some sponsor so all members of diptea.info can visit thai beaches |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 21-02-2009 21:05
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I have an hypothesis for this tickened foretarsus. Take a look at middle legs . they are rather long comparing to the first pair of legs. So the stress on first pair of legs is very high. Maybe this serves to support that stress. The locomotion of this fly must be rather unusual. And it seems it has a very thin microtrichia protruding away from the tarsus, maybe for sensor preys? It must uplift the first pair of legs when the fly seeks for any prey... and then with the high stress in first pair of legs it can hunts with more efficiency their food... just a crazy hypothesis. Now observe if this verifies It would be great to see these flies filmed.. |
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| andrzej grzywacz |
Posted on 22-02-2009 15:49
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 Member Location: Poland Posts: 103 Joined: 09.02.08 |
Inceredible fly  |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 22-02-2009 17:55
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9480 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you all. I think you should take Rui's video camera back to Thailand with you and discover how these feet work. Tony: 1. First step is to give the name to this fly either find already given name or describe if it turns sp.nov. 2. Still second step seems rather doubtful to me - I like Rui and I don't want to damage his video camera: this Lispe prefers extremelly silty shores - I was as dirty as this deer photografed in same place and day 
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 21-03-2009 23:03
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9480 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Voila name: Lispe mirabilis Stein Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 22-03-2009 01:00
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
mirabilis - a good name for this fly!
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