Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Suillia laevifrons?--> Suillia similis
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 11-06-2025 05:34
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 Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 323 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Is Suillia laevifrons correct? Or is it imberbis? Found in the Dunes in the Netherlands on juni 9the Lavendel attached the following image:  [207.72Kb] Edited by Lavendel on 09-07-2025 07:44 Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 11-06-2025 05:34
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 323 Joined: 10.11.07 |
male
Lavendel attached the following image:  [184.33Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 11-06-2025 05:35
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an other
Lavendel attached the following image:  [156.53Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 11-06-2025 05:36
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Sub-scutellar hairs present
Lavendel attached the following image:  [122.45Kb] Edited by Lavendel on 11-06-2025 05:37 Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 11-06-2025 05:40
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scutellum
Lavendel attached the following image:  [243.02Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 11-06-2025 05:40
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arista
Lavendel attached the following image:  [203.75Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 11-06-2025 06:00
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an other
Lavendel attached the following image:  [157.85Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 07-07-2025 04:55
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 323 Joined: 10.11.07 |
an other view
Lavendel attached the following image:  [167.11Kb] Edited by Lavendel on 07-07-2025 04:58 Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 07-07-2025 17:39
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Page no 30 (36): https://real-eod....002704.pdf. Here you can find almost all known Central European Suillia from the laevifrons-similis species group Edited by Andrzej on 07-07-2025 17:39 dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 09-07-2025 07:46
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 323 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Dear Andrzej, Many thanks! We used that key and made a new picture of the Surstyli (picture aded) That makes it Suillia simillis. Lavendel attached the following image:  [122.11Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 09-07-2025 08:14
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2161 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hello Sandra, What about your other 'laevifrons' of June 27th? Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 10-07-2025 05:12
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 323 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Hello Jan Willem, You mean this one: https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=115828 That stays Suillia laevifrons, based on the male genetalia. Kind regards, Sandra |
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| AWijker |
Posted on 10-07-2025 06:43
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 Member Location: Egmond aan Zee - The Netherlands Posts: 19 Joined: 21.03.07 |
Jan Willem, it was a bit confusing because Sandra and I used a British key where similis is not included. As Sandra writes and dr. Woznica told in the other thread the other specimen looks very good for laevifrons. Look at the different shape of the surstylus. We now use the hungarian key :-) |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 10-07-2025 08:19
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2161 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hello Sandra and Arnold, That was the specimen I was referring to. And the genitalia of both specimens are indeed different. Also Andrzej is a real specialist  .Nice to have a additional species for the Netherlands. Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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