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 Bombylius cinerascens?
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 21-04-2025 19:20
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Member Location: France Posts: 734 Joined: 16.08.17 |
Hello, In the south of France on April 21, 2025. The insect measures 7.5 to 8 mm long. I'm thinking it's a Bombylius, but I've never seen this wing venation on the Bombylius that I've already photographed. Thank you for your help with the identification. Liliane D attached the following image:  [160.58Kb] Edited by Liliane D on 23-04-2025 11:59 |
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 21-04-2025 19:20
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Member Location: France Posts: 734 Joined: 16.08.17 |
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Liliane D attached the following image:  [158.82Kb] |
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 21-04-2025 19:20
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Member Location: France Posts: 734 Joined: 16.08.17 |
3 I'm trying to post a third photo, but it's not working. Edited by Liliane D on 21-04-2025 19:25 |
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 21-04-2025 19:21
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Member Location: France Posts: 734 Joined: 16.08.17 |
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Edited by Liliane D on 22-04-2025 11:57 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 22-04-2025 09:16
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3875 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hello Liliane, did you check the photo's size and "no spaces, no dots..." in the filename? See https://diptera.i...p?cat_id=2 A lateral photo showing a femur could help. Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 22-04-2025 11:57
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Member Location: France Posts: 734 Joined: 16.08.17 |
This is precisely a photo where you can see the femurs! The title 210420253 and the weight of the photo are the same as those in the first photos. I would send it to you by private message, but I see that attachments are not allowed. |
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| eklans |
Posted on 22-04-2025 14:06
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3875 Joined: 11.11.18 |
I've received the photo and try to add it to your thread. I'm not sure but I think it could be a female Bombylius cinerascens - I've never seen it. EDIT: I also cannot add this image... Edited by eklans on 22-04-2025 14:10 Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| eklans |
Posted on 22-04-2025 14:11
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3875 Joined: 11.11.18 |
new try (copied the file to .png than as .jpg and here it is:
eklans attached the following image:  [36.2Kb] Edited by eklans on 22-04-2025 14:12 |
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 22-04-2025 14:15
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Member Location: France Posts: 734 Joined: 16.08.17 |
Bravo and thank you Eric |
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 22-04-2025 17:28
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Member Location: France Posts: 734 Joined: 16.08.17 |
I can't find this particular venation (circled in white) on Bombylius cinerascens. But I don't know if it's important? Liliane D attached the following image:  [162.46Kb] Edited by Liliane D on 22-04-2025 17:29 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 23-04-2025 10:32
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3875 Joined: 11.11.18 |
I've seen that, too, and I do not think, that this stub is relevant for an ID: If you look at this overview of some Bombylidae wings: https://galerie-i...ref=155933, you'll find the stubs on several species' wings. In Exoprosopa: https://galerie-i...ref=354544 you'll see a complete vein instead of the fragment. Unfortunately I cannot give you a scientific explanation for the phenomenon but I think it has to do with evolution. Nota bene: I'm still not sure, if B. cinerascens is correct - if you'd add it to the threads title, we would have a chance to attract an expert. Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 23-04-2025 12:00
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Member Location: France Posts: 734 Joined: 16.08.17 |
Thank you for your research and for the links. Indeed, this interrupted venation is not a specific feature of a species! |
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