Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Identified as 'Sarcophaga sp.' by Liekele
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| valter |
Posted on 01-03-2008 16:48
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 Member Location: Faro, Portugal Posts: 1998 Joined: 09.07.07 |
Location: Portim?o > Algarve > Portugal Date Photo Taken: February 29, 2008 
Edited by valter on 07-03-2008 00:50 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 01-03-2008 20:03
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7327 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Senotiania (Sarcophagidae) is my first reaction (but we need a second opinion)
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-03-2008 11:08
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19233 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Colouration reminds me of Amobia, but I don't see the smal proclinate orbital setae.... Theo |
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| valter |
Posted on 02-03-2008 13:57
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Member Location: Faro, Portugal Posts: 1998 Joined: 09.07.07 |
Zeegers wrote: Colouration reminds me of Amobia, but I don't see the smal proclinate orbital setae.... Theo What's the smal proclinate orbital setae ???   |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 02-03-2008 14:06
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
see overviews... the answer is there  look for head and thoracic threads.  |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-03-2008 18:10
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19233 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Valter, Just to be sure: is this the only pic you have ? Any other would help. Theo |
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| valter |
Posted on 03-03-2008 10:26
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Member Location: Faro, Portugal Posts: 1998 Joined: 09.07.07 |
Zeegers wrote: Valter, Just to be sure: is this the only pic you have ? Any other would help. Theo Yes, I only have this pic. Note: It's a small fly with perhaps 7 or 8 mm. Info: Senotiania sp. ? or Amobia sp. ? or just SARCOPHAGIDAE ? Thanks. |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 03-03-2008 12:23
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
To me it does not look like a Senotainia sp. The head shape and coloration is different to my knowledge in that genus. Amobia looks better, but really you should wait for Liekele.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 03-03-2008 16:19
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7327 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Forget my suggestion of Senotania - it's much more like Amobia, as Theo and Gabor have pointed out. (Not one of my better first reactions! )
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 03-03-2008 21:56
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19233 Joined: 21.07.04 |
So we wait for Liekele Theo |
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| Liekele Sijstermans |
Posted on 06-03-2008 23:36
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Member Location: Geldermalsen Netherlands Posts: 305 Joined: 16.04.05 |
This is not Amobia: Orbital bristles should be visible, but aren't. The frontal bristles are descending lower than insertion of antennae, but should not. The pictures show clearly strong parafacial bristles in lower, outer part. I do not know any miltogramminae with such bristles. This is a Sarcophaga spec. Liekele |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 07-03-2008 09:02
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19233 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Right. Now you mention it, a second ad bristle o tibia is actually present, but hardly visible. I got fooled. Theo |
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| Liekele Sijstermans |
Posted on 09-03-2008 14:49
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Member Location: Geldermalsen Netherlands Posts: 305 Joined: 16.04.05 |
Be carefull with ad bristles on tibia. Aberrations occur frequently in several genera in Miltogramminae. Liekele |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 09-03-2008 14:58
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19233 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I know. But had I seen the second bristle, I would have turned my eye to the parafacial bristles.... Theo |
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