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Phaonia sp.? --> Phaonia subventa
ukursawe
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Posted on 06-11-2024 14:30
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Hi,

a few days a ago I took a picture of a medium-sized fly on one of our bird shelters. It has an orange abdomen and an orange scutellum. I would suspect it could be Phaonia sp.,, maybe P. rufiventris (???). Is it possible to confirm or reject this guess from the pictures?

Germany, Southern Bavaria, Munich (-West), Garden, Bird shelter, 25.10.2024, app. 7-8 mm

Greetings, Uli
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Posted on 06-11-2024 15:08
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Hi Uli - no reason to reject! Female Phaonia rufiventris ist correct!

EDIT: 2 reasons to reject:
1. 2 pairs of strong acr pre (rufiventris: 0-1)
2. 2 posterior setae on mid tibia (rufiventris: 3-4)
so it's most probably P. subventa though scutellum seems to be completely yellow!
Edited by eklans on 06-11-2024 15:23
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
ukursawe
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Hi Eric,

thank you for your analysis, that is very helpful (especially after I found out what it means Grin ).

Greetings, Uli
 
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