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Muscidae ID -> Phaoniini
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Posted on 28-03-2024 17:49

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Edited by smol on 18-04-2024 17:33
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John Carr wrote:

Thank you once again!
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I keep keying this to Limnophorini, but I do not know any of these species having such dark appearance with no pattern at all (especially on the abdomen).

Anyone recognize more of this?
Edited by smol on 18-04-2024 09:19
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Not Limnophorini, Phaoninae.
Chaetotaxy of tibiae will help to say more.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
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Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
Not Limnophorini, Phaoninae.
Chaetotaxy of tibiae will help to say more.

Thank you very much! I completely miss-judged the pre-alar bristle.

Tribe Phaoniini (Phaonia or Helina), posterior(dorsal) seta on hind tibia is a bit hard to see (I believe seta also have been broken). Tried both keys, and believe (with 4 DC, one side broken?), could be Phaonia incana.

But the pictures are not the best, so I am leaving at this Smile
Edited by smol on 18-04-2024 17:53
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