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Bromophila caffra
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Posted on 16-02-2008 21:29
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I got permission from Sven-Erik (from Finland) to show this fly which he took on Hippopotamus dung at Tongabezi lodge, near Livingstone City, Zambia nov/dec 2007. Yeah, I also saw the smaller one in the photo.
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The smaller one seems to be Atherigona or close, Muscidae.

As for the larger one my guess would be somewhere around Hipodermatidae.
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Posted on 16-02-2008 21:38
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Nope, the big one belongs to the family Platystomatidae and is named Bromophila caffra! Cool
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You are right, this can not be a Calyptrate fly, the tarsal segments should have alerted me. Actually this looks quite simiar to Platystoma, save for the head and the overall coloration.
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Posted on 16-02-2008 21:42
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Well - my first thought is Thyreophora cynophila - something I never thought I'd ever see! (I think it's supposed to be extinct!)
EDIT: I'll happily defer to Gerard on this. but it's a great example of convergent evolution - see http://de.wikiped...nsenfliege
Edited by Tony Irwin on 16-02-2008 21:48
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Yes Tony, would have been great!! But that one is extinct isn't it? And Thyreophora cynophila had clear wings with only a black dot in it, so unfortunately....... I keep with my former answer! GrinGrin
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This is the fabulous Bromophila caffra. i TALKED about this fly before!!!! Wink See the favourite flies thread. Pfft

see here >>>>> http://diptera.in...owstart=20

check the penultim post. Grin
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there is in SOuth Africa as well. Grin
 
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Thank you all! Cool
 
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I must confirm previous determinations while Andy Whittington is offline: yes, it is Bromophila caffra Loew (Platystomatini), and the picture itself, indeed, is fabulous! The fly is famous not only because it is one of the largest (but not longest!) platystomatids at all, but because it has no ocelli at all, so it was in the Pyrgotidae for a long time...
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Is anything known about it's biology? Googling didn't reveal much. I am also curious about why it looks like it does. Could it be some kind of mimicry?

The first time I saw this photo I wondered if it might be a joke and that it was a plastic toy fly Grin
 
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Like in most other Platystomatini close to Platystoma, almost nothing is known what larvae inhabit, probably soil reach of humus, roots, etc. Platystoma euphorbiae Enderlein was originally reared from rotten plants of some succulent Euphorbia on Canary Is. like what grubs like. Adults, especially females, are usually attracted by dung. (In the case of Brimophila, of elephant's and hyppo's megadung...

I myself never collected in palaeotropics, so have no personal observations.
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Hi everybody ... I'm back on line again.

Yes, B. caffra is correct, it is the only species in the genus, defined as Valery says by the lack of ocelli in the adult flies (scars are sometimes visible where the ocelli should be), red (plastic looking) head, black body and wings. Adults vary considerably in size, specimens ranging from 12 - 22mm (body length) and 24 - 50 mm (wing span).

This species is distributed along the easter seaboard of the African continent from Kenya southwards , arcing out across Zambia, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Botswana and South Africa.

Our knowledge of larval habits is very rudimentary. There appears to be an association with the roots of Terminalia trees (Combretaceae), from which the larvae sequester various toxic compounds (probably cyclic triterpenes) possibly for defense. This may render the adults toxic too, as a defense against predation - not a thoroughly tested hypothesis.

Adults are slow moving and ponderous ... and photogenic!
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03.03.21 22:17
Thanks Tony

02.03.21 21:02
see FAQ (Forum and posting)

01.03.21 06:08
How do I submit photos for identification

23.02.21 10:02
Probably something in the file's 'ource data. I edited it and saved as png. Now it is okay.

22.02.21 14:13
What happened to the picture in https://diptera.in
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d.php?thread_id=99
500 ? It had been comressed only horizontally...

20.02.21 22:13
Markus Gebel

20.02.21 18:12
@beateSenf you can check the coincident threads with your species and try to write to whom identified them

11.02.21 09:15
No worries. Not everyone has time all the time. Wink

06.02.21 22:18
I am sincerely sorry for this comment. You are doing your best and I am very grateful for your work. I'm sorry. Beate

06.02.21 18:23
Hallo, I have a question. Are there any hidden rules in this forum? Do you have to upload spectacular flies to get answers? As soon as the inquiries slide to page two or further, they rest gently

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