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Muscidae sp.? => Muscidae cf. Thricops sp.
Siegfried Rudolf
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Posted on 02-11-2023 12:31
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Hello everyone,

I found this approximately 8 mm fly yesterday in the Black Forest, southwest Germany. I assume a Muscidae, but I'm not even sure about the family.

Greetings Siggi
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Hello Siggi, I think it's a female Thricops simplex.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Hi Eric,

thank you very much for your fast answer.

Greetings Siggi
 
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Eric, I agree with your guess that probably it is Thricops. If so, why T. simplex? If so, my best idea is T. albibasalis.
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Thank you very much once again, Nikita! I was not sure about simplex - so I had better suggested Thricops sp.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Thank you for your contribution Nikita. If I understand you correctly, Thricops albibasalis is not safe either. So it will probably be best if I name the picture Thricops sp. Or can I also write Thricops cf. albibasalis?

Greetings Siggi
 
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Rudolf, identification of females from photo is a difficult task.
My best offer: Thricops ? lbibasalis ??
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
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ok. So if the genus Thricops is unclear, I'll change the heading again accordingly.
 
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