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 Tachinid 2 Scotland
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| jck |
Posted on 31-08-2023 17:35
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Is it possible tp ID this fly? County of Angus on 20/08/2023. James jck attached the following image:  [199.65Kb] |
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| jck |
Posted on 31-08-2023 17:36
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jck attached the following image:  [174.48Kb] |
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| eklans |
Posted on 31-08-2023 18:03
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4507 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi James, I think it's an Epicampocera succincta.
Greetings, Eric |
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| jck |
Posted on 31-08-2023 21:24
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Thanks, Eric. How sure can you be? James |
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| eklans |
Posted on 01-09-2023 07:41
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4507 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi James, I'm nearly 100% sure that it's a female Epicampocera succincta, but the slightly red tip of the scutellum confuses me lightly. A lateral view of the head could help (the palps should be distincly thickened).
Edited by eklans on 01-09-2023 07:43 Greetings, Eric |
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| jck |
Posted on 01-09-2023 13:17
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Member Location: Posts: 1135 Joined: 21.08.12 |
I'm not entirely sure that what you are seeing is a real colour. If you look at the detail photo (sorry about my head and the tripod spoiling the picture), you will see a couple of faint purple stripes on the thorax. Those are not real purple stripes but rather light effect/wear and tear or something similar. Is the colour effect at the tip of the scutellum not something like that? James jck attached the following image:  [177.53Kb] |
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| eklans |
Posted on 01-09-2023 17:58
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4507 Joined: 11.11.18 |
I'm sure you are right that we see purple reflections on your fly and I've found these reflections on some of my Epicampocera photos, too.
Greetings, Eric |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-09-2023 12:06
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19299 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Sorry to spoil the party, but shape of antenna is off, facial ridge has many bristles, tibiae are reddish and calypter is of Sturmia-typ: hence Pales. quite dark, I admit. Theo |
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| jck |
Posted on 02-09-2023 16:38
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Member Location: Posts: 1135 Joined: 21.08.12 |
Thank you both for your contributions to the discussion. I have done some further research and it must be Pales pavida: 1. The updated British List (July 2022) only mentions Pales pavida; there is no mention of Pales processionae. 2. The Oak Processionary Moth does not occur in Scotland - the nearest ones seem to be no further north than Birmingham. Even if P. processionae did occur in the UK, the nearest moths are about 500km south of this sighting. James |
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