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 Is it possible to identify this one by such foto? June 2023. Western region of Ukraine.
basileus attached the following image:


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 Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.


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Zeegers wrote:
Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.


Theo


Silvius latifrons graecus was reported from Turkey, Çanakkale province along the Dardanelles (Kılıç 2001). Is graecus still a subspecies?
 
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 Thanks, John !
Well, how to define a (suCoolspecies in case of allopatric taxa ?

Theo
 
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Zeegers wrote:
Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.


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Wow! I don't even know what to say about this?
 
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 it is not (yet) 100 %, it is 99%.
catch one and/or make a razorsharp pic of the antenna

(yes, I know, it is not easy)

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Thanks, John !
Well, how to define a (sub)species in case of allopatric taxa ?

Theo


One of the American Drosophila researchers used to test reproductive compatibility with existing species before describing a new species.
 
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 Well done, I do applaud this apprisch, but highly theoretical in nearly all cases, alas..Theo
 
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