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Tabanidae ID => Nemorius vitripennis (f)
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Posted on 04-06-2023 13:00
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Is it possible to identify this one by such foto? June 2023. Western region of Ukraine.
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Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.


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Zeegers wrote:
Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.


Theo


Silvius latifrons graecus was reported from Turkey, Çanakkale province along the Dardanelles (Kılıç 2001). Is graecus still a subspecies?
 
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Thanks, John !
Well, how to define a (suCoolspecies in case of allopatric taxa ?

Theo
 
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Zeegers wrote:
Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.


Theo


Wow! I don't even know what to say about this?
 
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it is not (yet) 100 %, it is 99%.
catch one and/or make a razorsharp pic of the antenna

(yes, I know, it is not easy)

Theo
 
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Zeegers wrote:
Thanks, John !
Well, how to define a (sub)species in case of allopatric taxa ?

Theo


One of the American Drosophila researchers used to test reproductive compatibility with existing species before describing a new species.
 
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Well done, I do applaud this apprisch, but highly theoretical in nearly all cases, alas..Theo
 
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