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Reichertella geniculata (ID Colobo); SW Spain
Andre Burgers
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Posted on 11-12-2022 16:33
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Maybe a Reichertella?? Cool

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Looks like Scatopse notata, but let someone with more experience with this family respond. :-)
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What do you think of Ferneiella incompleta, male?
The wing venation and "dull, densely microtrichiose wings" from
Bibionid and Scatopsid Flies, Freeman & Lane, 1985
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Your first idea was correct, Andres. Most certainly Reichertella geniculata.
 
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Ah, indeed, the wing venation is totally wrong for Scatopse notata.
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Not totally wrong, Jan Willem, as the wing venation is quite similar in both species. However in Scatopse notata there is an indication of a short translucent anterior vein arising from slightly angled M1 in direction of R4+5, which is not present in R. geniculata. Ferneiella incompleta has also a stump vein arising from M1 anteriorly, but it is differently shaped. The accentuated terminal rounded bend of very long R4+5 is also characteristic of R. geniculata.
 
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Well, Jan Willem, eklans & Colobo, this is a very interesting conversation. TumbsUp

And a nice boost for my self-esteem. Grin

Thanks, the three of you!
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