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Helina or Phaonia?
pierred
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Posted on 28-09-2022 11:26
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 Hello,

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos311/big/5dt15799.jpg
Pierre Duhem : France : Bessans : 73480 : 30/07/2022
Altitude : 1744 m - Taille : 7-8 mm
Réf. : 311097

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Pierre Duhem : France : Bessans : 73480 : 30/07/2022
Altitude : 1744 m - Taille : 7-8 mm
Réf. : 311098

On our French forum, we were thinking about Helina impuncta for this sand-coloured fly. Then somebody asked for a picture of the legs:

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Pierre Duhem : France : Bessans : 73480 : 30/07/2022
Altitude : 1744 m - Taille : 7-8 mm
Réf. : 311204

Could it be Phaonia angelicae?

Thanks in advance for your comments.
Pierre Duhem
 
eklans
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Posted on 28-09-2022 12:49
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 Hello Pierre, from what I see, female Phaonia angelicae is correct. (H. impuncta should have 1 to 3 pair of elongated prst acr and more distinctly shaded transverse veins.)
Edited by eklans on 28-09-2022 12:51
Greetings, Eric
 
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 Thanks, Eric.
Pierre Duhem
 
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