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Ectophasia?
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Posted on 24-09-2022 23:43
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Vineyards of Vienna, late September

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Yes, either crassipennis or oblonga.

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Posted on 25-09-2022 13:53
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central stripe of abdomen is rather small, I can also provide photos of the sternum, which is clearly narrower than the ventral membrane, so it should be a ♂ E. oblonga.
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Posted on 26-09-2022 23:50
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I hope this shot is convincing

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Genitalia are out of focus, are you sure it is a male ?

In any case, male oblonga is much redder and much more elongated, so that it is not. Check the gallery.

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Posted on 30-09-2022 23:42
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Looks very male to me.

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here two dorsal shots
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What about E. leucoptera - would this be an option?
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Posted on 01-10-2022 09:33
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Yes, a male it is.
For me, this is well within the variability of crassipennis. It is definitely not leucoptera and as said before, I don’t believe it to be oblonga either.

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Posted on 01-10-2022 10:09
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So, the sternite width mentioned by Tschorsnig should be considered as irrelevant?
Dorsal stripe resembles this observation, IDed as oblonga:
https://www.insec...ia+oblonga

Certainly darker red, but isn't coloration quite a variable character, which might even change over time?

Abdominal shape favors E. crassipes...
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