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| CedricMondy |
Posted on 30-05-2022 09:20
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 Member Location: Île-de-France (France) Posts: 69 Joined: 30.06.21 |
Hi everyone, This one found in town seems a bit odd to me. I first though it could be a Sapromyzosoma but... It might be possible that the thorax was damaged during the capture (although I did not notice) but even so, the chaetotaxy seems weird to me. Any idea?  Cédric Mondy : France : Saint-Maur-des-Fossés : 94100 : 23/04/2022 Altitude : 41 m - Taille : 4.5 mm Réf. : 303283  Cédric Mondy : France : Saint-Maur-des-Fossés : 94100 : 23/04/2022 Altitude : 41 m - Taille : 4.5 mm Réf. : 303284  Cédric Mondy : France : Saint-Maur-des-Fossés : 94100 : 23/04/2022 Altitude : 41 m - Taille : 4.5 mm Réf. : 303286 Edited by CedricMondy on 12-06-2022 22:16 Cédric |
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| CedricMondy |
Posted on 02-06-2022 22:00
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Member Location: Île-de-France (France) Posts: 69 Joined: 30.06.21 |
Do you think the family at least is correct?
Cédric |
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| CedricMondy |
Posted on 05-06-2022 20:18
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Member Location: Île-de-France (France) Posts: 69 Joined: 30.06.21 |
Anyone inspired by this one?
Cédric |
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| Jan Maca |
Posted on 06-06-2022 05:19
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The costal vein does not seem to be broken... Still, I would compare Chamaemyiidae. |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 06-06-2022 05:32
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I'm sure Jan meant Chyromyidae...A bit early in the morning for this ...  |
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| CedricMondy |
Posted on 06-06-2022 10:45
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Member Location: Île-de-France (France) Posts: 69 Joined: 30.06.21 |
Thank you both! I will have a look at these families, and more specifically the second one.
Cédric |
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| CedricMondy |
Posted on 06-06-2022 13:28
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Member Location: Île-de-France (France) Posts: 69 Joined: 30.06.21 |
I checked for Chyromyidae, but it seems this does not match. Indeed, in 'The European Families of the Diptera', Pjotr Oosterbroek says that this family is characterized by yellow (here black) bristles and hairs and by the lack of dorsal preapical bristle on the tibiae (here they are present). These specifics are also mentionned by John Carr in this forum. Species from Chamaemyiidae are usually silvery grey flies (not exactly the case here) and they also lack preapical bristles on the tibiae. I will keep searching, thanks in advance for any hint! Cédric |
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| Jan Maca |
Posted on 06-06-2022 14:39
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Member Location: Posts: 845 Joined: 25.03.10 |
Thank you for your note, Roger - it was exactly so. Unfortunately, Chyromyidae do not seem to match, then what? Still a lauxaniid? |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 06-06-2022 16:39
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I see no intra-alar bristle so it is not in the Minettia group. Some Sapromyza and Sapromyzosoma have two strong katepisternals and spots on the distal tergites. |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 06-06-2022 16:41
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5028 Joined: 17.07.08 |
It might be bits and pieces of several different flies cobbled together by Frank Enstein after he's had a few drinks. Or it might be a good idea to run a Geiger Counter across it [just in case]  |
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| CedricMondy |
Posted on 09-06-2022 07:38
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Member Location: Île-de-France (France) Posts: 69 Joined: 30.06.21 |
Thank you all!
Edited by CedricMondy on 09-06-2022 11:19 Cédric |
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