Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Anthomyiidae/Muscidae, Calyptrata, Hungary, October 2006
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| Xespok |
Posted on 03-01-2008 16:51
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
An Anthomyiid or a Muscid? Does someone have any idea on the genus?
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| Xespok |
Posted on 03-01-2008 16:52
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Another view. This could be tough.
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| Xespok |
Posted on 10-02-2008 09:14
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I raise this thread also. Nikita, Stephane, Kahis and others, can some of you help with the family?
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 10-02-2008 18:24
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I will not be helpfull for this one, but my guess is Anthomyiidae.
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| Xespok |
Posted on 16-04-2008 20:09
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I raise this thread. Michael do you have any opinion on this?
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 16-04-2008 21:13
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
The first photo suggests that the arista is plumose? If so it is Hylemya, and with yellow tibia it is Hylemya urbica Wulp female I might come back on the previous two anthos, they are interesting, but I need some time to check on them |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 16-04-2008 21:34
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I think the arista is plumose indeed.
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| Xespok |
Posted on 16-04-2008 21:57
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I think I found another fly belonging to this species. Another female I assume.
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| Xespok |
Posted on 16-04-2008 21:58
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Another view.
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| Xespok |
Posted on 16-04-2008 21:59
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
And another image.
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 17-04-2008 09:16
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
In the female of urbica the yellowish tibiae can vary from very indistinct and only on the hind tibia, to both mid and hind femora more extensive. In the latter case it approaches the female of Hylemya vagans, and they can be difficult to separate, The male of H. urbica often has entirely black tibiae, and so you have to look at the genitalia to separate it from H. variata which is quite different. If anyone is interested i will post figs of the two genitalia as jpeg files, which might come out clearlt. |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 17-04-2008 18:55
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Thx Michael for the explanation. We are interested in the figure. I hope I posted some images of the male in another thread (but I may be completely wrong.)
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 18-04-2008 14:02
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
I have had some trouble in getting these drawings to come through. This is my last attempt
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 18-04-2008 14:03
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
The first one is Hylemya urbica, the second is variata |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 18-04-2008 17:02
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
Perhaps this size is smaller |
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