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 Calliphoridae, male => Muscinae
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| Gansucha |
Posted on 20-04-2022 06:44
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Member Location: Posts: 1045 Joined: 18.04.12 |
Ukraine, Rivne region, on August 3. There are two assumptions and I don't know which one to lean towards: Lucilia eximia ? Protophormia terraenovae ? 
Edited by Gansucha on 20-04-2022 21:51 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 20-04-2022 07:03
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19009 Joined: 21.07.04 |
or a Muscidae ….  Check the bend in wing venation ! Theo |
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| eklans |
Posted on 20-04-2022 07:57
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3997 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi Victor, yes Muscidae: this male's frons seems to be very narrow, colour blue, scutum slightly dusted and I think it is probably a Pyrellia rapax.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Gansucha |
Posted on 20-04-2022 14:02
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Member Location: Posts: 1045 Joined: 18.04.12 |
Thank you very much Theo fnd Eric ! Apparently, I'm not learning to distinguish between Calliphoridae and Muscidae by wings without a visual image (Also among Muscidae, I saw a very similar representative: Eudasyphora ... Edited by Gansucha on 20-04-2022 15:19 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 20-04-2022 15:57
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3997 Joined: 11.11.18 |
It's not an easy task to id these metallic flies and in many cases you will not be absolutely sure from photos. As a broad rule the M vein of Callophoridae has a sharp bow while the Muscidae's is obtuse-angled. To be sure with Pyrellia/Eudasyphora you will nee a good photo of the thorax and the anterior postsutural intra-alar bristle: Pyrellia's is absent, Eudasyphora present. I can recommend a nice book of 2021 from Olga Sivell with a section look-alikes where you can see the differences of the metallic flies (Calliphoridae, Tachinidae, Muscidae): https://www.royen...rhiniidae/ Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Gansucha |
Posted on 20-04-2022 18:26
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Member Location: Posts: 1045 Joined: 18.04.12 |
Thanks for your reply, Eric! I'm afraid I just won't have time to figure it out. Now I'm just trying to upload all the photos I have from previous years - maybe someone will find it useful, there is just some uncertainty in the future. Would it be correct in this case to sign Muscidae? |
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| eklans |
Posted on 20-04-2022 19:25
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3997 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Yes, it's surely Muscidae, subfamily Muscinae. The 2 possible candidates are Pyrellia rapax and Eudasyphora cyanicolor.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Gansucha |
Posted on 20-04-2022 21:48
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Member Location: Posts: 1045 Joined: 18.04.12 |
Thank you, Eric !!! |
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