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 Psychodidae: Clogmia or Lepiseodina latipennis
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 11-04-2022 23:27
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 Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1861 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Based on the discussion here, the content of the flag on iNaturalist and subsequent own literature research, I commited taxon swaps for the three species. L. superba and conspicua were already in that genus. In Clogmia, besides the common species the remaining ones are C. coronata, caboverdeana and poncianicula (there are probably species missing which are not yet in the iNat-database). Flags could be created to have them added as well Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| weia |
Posted on 11-04-2022 23:50
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Member Location: Posts: 372 Joined: 10.07.11 |
Carnifex wrote: In Clogmia, besides the common species the remaining ones are C. coronata, caboverdeana and poncianicula (there are probably species missing which are not yet in the iNat-database). Flags could be created to have them added as well South-American and Asian species maybe. Let's wait for the revision of Clogmia! Thanks for the swap! |
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| weia |
Posted on 11-04-2022 23:54
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Member Location: Posts: 372 Joined: 10.07.11 |
Liliane D wrote: Apparently, the taxonomic reference in France (TAXREF) has not yet validated the change of genus and the identification Clogmia latipennis is only valid. Is INPN responsible for the French list? Edit: I've mailed them already Edited by weia on 12-04-2022 00:21 |
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| victorengel |
Posted on 12-04-2022 00:41
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Member Location: Posts: 95 Joined: 20.12.20 |
iNaturalist uses specific sources as the source of truth. Which one depends on the taxon. I don't recall what it is for Diptera. If whatever database they use uses Clogmia, the taxon swap won't happen if the proper procedure is followed. I think sometimes new papers can override that, though, like, for example, recently published DNA studies. But those should eventually filter down to the other databases anyway. |
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 12-04-2022 07:50
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1861 Joined: 23.06.15 |
There is no authority as a source for Diptera taxonomy. As a rough orientation, Systema Dipterorum has been suggested to use, but of course with a lot of care. I checked the database, and was surprised to find Lepiseodina listed as a junior synonym for Clogmia. A source was also given: Kvifte 2018 - in that paper, however, Lepiseodina and Clogmia are both listed as valid genera... Searching for 'latipennis' within Psychodidae returns only Psychoda latipennis Tonnoir, 1939 Telmatoscopus latipennis Sarà, 1953 The latter one is the accepted taxon in GBIF and = Lepiseodina latipennis Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| weia |
Posted on 12-04-2022 08:53
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Member Location: Posts: 372 Joined: 10.07.11 |
Taxonomy is a joy forever. Or a never ending work. This particular species is described as Telmatoscopus latipennis, part of Telmatoscopus is moved to Clogmia and part of Clogmia to Lepiseodina. Psychodidae taxonomy isn't stable at the moment unfortunately. |
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 12-04-2022 08:53
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Member Location: France Posts: 651 Joined: 16.08.17 |
weia wrote: Liliane D wrote: Apparently, the taxonomic reference in France (TAXREF) has not yet validated the change of genus and the identification Clogmia latipennis is only valid. Is INPN responsible for the French list? Edit: I've mailed them already Yes, it's the INPN |
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| weia |
Posted on 16-05-2022 11:04
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Member Location: Posts: 372 Joined: 10.07.11 |
Liliane, can you include your observation in iNaturalist? That will generate a correct map. |
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| weia |
Posted on 16-05-2022 11:04
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Member Location: Posts: 372 Joined: 10.07.11 |
A redescription of the species is in the making, I heard. |
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| Liliane D |
Posted on 09-06-2022 09:07
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Member Location: France Posts: 651 Joined: 16.08.17 |
I tried to register on iNaturalist but it is too complicated for me and I gave up. If you want, you can report this post on iNaturalist so that the observation is listed there. I have given information about the location of the observation in our discussion. If there is any other information that is important, please feel free to ask me. Thank you all for the discussion. |
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but don't see the image in the post.
