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 Calliphoridae: Onesia cf. floralis ♂
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-11-2021 15:31
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Found that male Calliphoridae this morning on the compost (Ansbach, close to Frankenhoehe Nature Park, old deciduous forest, 2021-11-10). I think it's a Calliphora but it seems strange to me: - size > 10 mm - abdomen green - parafacialia fine hairs on upper half (if at all) - orange hairs on postgena - basicosta black - anterior spiracle dark - veins darkened Can it be loewi? eklans attached the following image:  [233.58Kb] Edited by eklans on 12-11-2021 10:46 Greetings, Eric |
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-11-2021 15:34
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
lateral
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-11-2021 15:35
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
frons, antenna, arista
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-11-2021 15:36
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
gena, palps
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-11-2021 15:37
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
wing, abdomen
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| Tetrao |
Posted on 10-11-2021 15:45
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Would be Happy to know ! Thank for sharing ! |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 10-11-2021 17:17
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 16819 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Why not Onesia ? |
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-11-2021 17:47
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Good question: I thought, Onesia should have hairy parafacialia like Bellardia, but that was an error! The prest ia is weak and the post ia seem to be partly broken. Onesia is it (though I fear I must not call it floralis)!  Thank you very much, Theo! Greetings, Eric |
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| EsinM |
Posted on 11-11-2021 07:20
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Member Location: Mordovia reserve Posts: 286 Joined: 12.10.19 |
Looks like a Calliphora subalpina. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 11-11-2021 09:07
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 16819 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, but that soecies does not occur in this region  Theo |
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| eklans |
Posted on 11-11-2021 11:31
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hopefully I may call it floralis as I've found evidence in my images using Revision der Gattung Onesia (H. Schumann) - loosely translated: "Crucial is also the distance between the compound eyes of the males: it's narrowest distance is longer than the distance between the hind ocelli" eklans attached the following image:  [37.6Kb] Greetings, Eric |
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| eklans |
Posted on 11-11-2021 11:35
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
and another one: "Important is the male's absence of the ventral bristle on the mid tibia" @EsinM: Thank you! I've excluded Calliphora subalpina as it should have more marginal scutellars. eklans attached the following image:  [40.96Kb] Greetings, Eric |
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| EsinM |
Posted on 11-11-2021 12:33
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Member Location: Mordovia reserve Posts: 286 Joined: 12.10.19 |
I have some very similar copies, I can send them along with the flies for Theo. Or I can take a photo. It's very interesting to find out who it is. Such flies are very active in autumn near beer traps. |
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| eklans |
Posted on 11-11-2021 13:37
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
I'm looking forward to see the photo.
Greetings, Eric |
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| EsinM |
Posted on 11-11-2021 14:02
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Member Location: Mordovia reserve Posts: 286 Joined: 12.10.19 |
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| EsinM |
Posted on 11-11-2021 14:03
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Member Location: Mordovia reserve Posts: 286 Joined: 12.10.19 |
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| EsinM |
Posted on 11-11-2021 14:04
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Member Location: Mordovia reserve Posts: 286 Joined: 12.10.19 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 11-11-2021 15:28
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Your fly looks very similar to my Onesia - except the very blue colour of the abdomen and I'm not sure if there are 3 postsutural ia. But I couldn't find a Calliphora with dark basicosta, gena and a resembling frons - loewia's is narrower.
Greetings, Eric |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-11-2021 09:46
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 16819 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Oh, you got it pinned ! Simply check the number of post IA bristles. Or make a sharp pic of the thorax. I mentioned before that none of the exernal featues by Schumann work in mu material ( well, they work 75 %) Theo |
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| eklans |
Posted on 12-11-2021 10:51
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 1863 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Thanks Theo, I remember your words about Schumann  The pinned fly is from EsinM, Mordovia reserve, it resembles my fly. Edited by eklans on 12-11-2021 10:55 Greetings, Eric |
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