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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-12-2007 18:13
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9430 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thailand, Khao Chamao, I've seen twice this fly near the forest stream, once collected. Large (1cm), R1 setos dorsaly, R5 setose ventraly (both completely) Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [89.2Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 12-12-2007 18:20
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Oh, wow. I have no clue at all about this fly, but that does not stop me from guessing: The ovipositor makes me think of Tephritoidea. A tropical, weird tephritoid would probably be a Platystomatid 
Edited by Kahis on 12-12-2007 20:30 Kahis |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 12-12-2007 18:21
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Hmmm, I was thinking more about a big Anthomyzidae!  Greetings, Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 12-12-2007 18:30
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3331 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I'd say Anthomyzidae don't exceed 5 mm... |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-12-2007 18:36
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also: t2 with strong pv spine, 1 recl or, 1 frontal pointed inside (almost crossed) both strong, 1 rather week prescut dc Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 12-12-2007 18:56
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This looks wierd. I have no idea what this would be.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 12-12-2007 19:07
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Still nothing too contradictive as well as too convincing (to me). If we assume it's a genus w/o pv ctenidial spine on f1 (like Typhamyza), then a distinct ventroapical seta on t2 should be present... |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 12-12-2007 19:56
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I still wonder whether Nikita makes these up in Photoshop ... 
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-12-2007 20:15
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Costal break apparently present, cell cup extended into acute angle, incurved frontal setae: Tephritidae according to Oosterbroek's key to Malaysian Diptera. Edited by Paul Beuk on 12-12-2007 20:15 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 13-12-2007 04:02
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9430 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Tephritidae may be confirmed or excluded by John. I've just got another idea from Andrey Ozerov - Tanypezidae. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 13-12-2007 07:56
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Tanypezidae? From what I know of them: unlikely with such an ovipositor...
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 13-12-2007 14:24
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9430 Joined: 24.05.05 |
2 years ago I made in Thailand, near another forest stream bad image of another fly. Fly was also about 1cm, another wing pattern, but I suppose near last one. 2 years ago I put fly as unknown Tephritidae... Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [36.94Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 13-12-2007 14:53
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3331 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Well let's wait for Hardy's book (The fruit flies (Tephritidae-Diptera) of Thailand and bordering countries; vol. 31 of Pacific Insects Monographs) to become available online... |
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| crex |
Posted on 13-12-2007 16:51
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In Bamboo-shoot fruit flies (Diptera : Tephritidae) of southern Thailand you have photos and description of a few Tephritidae. Maybe you can contact the author Surakrai Permkam. Email address is in the PDF file. |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 30-12-2007 20:18
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It is Felderimyia cf. gombakensis D. Hancock & Drew 1995 (Malaysian J. Sci. 16A: 45-59). The only difference from the type is mostly yellow katepisternum in this specimen on the pic, which does not allow ti ID it definitivly. This, however, can be merely a variability. Bernhard Merz possibly possesses additional specimens collected in Thailand, but did not listed this species (Papp, Merz & Foeldvari 2006), which is therefore a new record. And, it certainly is a tephritid. Val Edited by Nosferatumyia on 30-12-2007 20:42 Val |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 30-12-2007 20:21
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great name! Felderimyia cf. gombakensis  |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 31-12-2007 09:13
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9430 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Valery.
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