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Rhagionidae: Chrysopilus splendidus ♀
ESant
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Posted on 02-09-2021 17:40
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Hello,

I photographed this fly in San Giovanni (BZ), Italy, 1000m a.s.l. on July 12th 2021. I think it is a Chrysopilus, but is it possible to identify its species from these photos?

Thank you in advance,
Emanuele
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In principle, a very nice female Ch. splendidus !

One can nicely see the greenish colour on the abdomen. The only problem is there is a cryptic species from France (torrentium), of which we don’t know the female.

I wouldn’t bother because nobody can tell. As long as the male of torrentium has not been found in Italy, let’s go for splendidus.

Theo
 
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Thank you very much Theo!
 
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I usually identify this species by having dark femora, while being generally simiar to asiliformis.
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That is corrct. The new “Fieldguide to the flies with three puvilli of northwestern Europe, to appear next week in Dutch and early 2022 in English” mentions another instructive feature: eye is green in living asiliformis, red in most other species.

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I will wait for the English version Smile
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