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Isidro
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Posted on 08-08-2021 10:43
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These critters are candid white. The colours are not deformated by the photo, they're as seen in these pics. Even legs are whitish.
They're big, of the size of Lispe tentaculata (much bigger than Lispe candicans, or at least those candicans I saw in another place)
Unfortunately it was impossible to take good photos as they was resting in water surface on muddy terrain that I cannot enter in. I did the photos from far distance with the zoom, what allows not much detail. But I hope that with this colour they can be identifiable.
Habitat: Seaside brackish abandoned salines
Location: Punta Entinas, Almeria, south Spain
Date: 1st August 2021
Please help with the ID! Thanks!

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i.ibb.co/tPtcwjF/P1360871-1-8-21-Punta-Entinas.jpg
 
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Posted on 08-08-2021 11:32
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To me, they look like Brachydeutera (Ephydridae)
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Nikita Vikhrev
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I'm in doubts about the second image. The first one is Hydrophorus (praecox?)
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I didn't look closely enough at the first image - clearly not Brachydeutera. Hydrophorus seems right. (But I still think Brachydeutera for second image)
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Posted on 08-08-2021 16:37
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That caught me totally unprevented! I never could have imagined they're other than Lispe, and they're even not muscomorphs!!! Big thanks to all you for unblind me.

Looks like there are only three species in Spain, praecox, oceanus and balticus. Are all they like this one? Can be found all three in a salty marsh near coast in Almeria province in end of July? I tought Hydrophorus were smaller and darker...
 
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Posted on 08-08-2021 16:40
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This is what I understood as Hydrophorus praecox: a smaller, darker, slender-looking fly with longer legs and longer wings...?
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