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 Trichoceridae? from Romania
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| cosmln |
Posted on 05-12-2007 21:31
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 Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Hi, collected couple of days ago (1.December.2007) this tipulid (or limonid?). very small, at least on what i see normally, around ~4mm body length. also the antennae are very long maybe is helpful to ID this one. two photos of the mounted specimen, cosmln [EDIT]: title changed cosmln attached the following image:  [70.75Kb] Edited by cosmln on 06-12-2007 22:07 |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 05-12-2007 21:40
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 06-12-2007 15:07
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2150 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Looks like Trichoceridae to me.
Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 06-12-2007 22:04
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Jan Willem wrote: Looks like Trichoceridae to me. Hi Jan, thanks for that, i didn't know about that family until now. i will update the subject line. cosmln |
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| Andrius |
Posted on 08-12-2007 16:19
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Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 315 Joined: 27.01.05 |
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication: Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66. Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case  I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 08-12-2007 16:25
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Andrius wrote: Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication: Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66. Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible Hi, i have to check but i think i have that paper. thanks, cosmln |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 08-12-2007 16:42
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
cosmln wrote: Andrius wrote: Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication: Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66. Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible Hi, i have to check but i think i have that paper. thanks, cosmln just checked that paper, for identification is not useful. maybe i will go with material at Luiza Ujvarosi. but when will be couple exemplary, not just that one. cosmln |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 08-12-2007 16:59
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Andrius wrote: Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication: Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66. Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible It is not T. regelationis. No spots on the wings. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 08-12-2007 17:01
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
hmmm.. the photo is very clear and it is possible to have 2 spots, so T. regelationis is a possibility indeed.. |
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