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Heleomyzidae, Suillia parva group? from Romania
cosmln
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Posted on 01-12-2007 23:37
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 Hi,

today (couple hours ago) (1 december 2007) i found this fly on a wall at a light.
I think is some kind on heleomyzid, Suillia ? (at first i was thinked also to Dryomyzidae).
something more can be sayd? i will add later also a photo of the mounted specimen.

thanks in advance,
cosmln

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 last one (for now)
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 If Kahis's rule " 5 dorsocentral setae per row - 1 before suture, 4 behind" always brings us to Suillia, this should be one!
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 As it is Smile
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 Suillia correctly !.
Andrzej
 
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Andrzej wrote:
Suillia correctly !.
Andrzej


Hi,

thanks to all, learned something new.
after checking haed's supracervical setulae near neck, this are white... this will make an Suillia affinis?

two more photos of mounted specimen,
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 last one, head detail
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 Not S. affinis. Arista is short pubescent !. Maybe S. parva complex.
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Andrzej wrote:
Not S. affinis. Arista is short pubescent !. Maybe S. parva complex.
Andrzej


Hi Andrzej,

i will try to prepare genitalia next week.
you think will be possible to put a name after?

thanks,
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 Of course Smile
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Of course Smile
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Hi Andrzej,

just now was time for genitalia.
here it is, if something more exactly needed to be illustrated just let me know.

forget to add that the size of specimen is of 7-8 mm

thanks for the help,
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 HMM, PLEASE MAKE A PHOTO FROM THE VNTRAL SIDE OF GONOSTYLI (=DISTISTYLI). probably not a parva Sad.
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 S. vaginata?
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HMM, PLEASE MAKE A PHOTO FROM THE VNTRAL SIDE OF GONOSTYLI (=DISTISTYLI). probably not a parva Sad.
Andrzej


Hi Andrzej,

i tried to make some photo but... i reallt don't know what is that gonostylus... this what i have learned in a faculty including one year of entomology.
also in glossary this terms are not presented. i will be glad to learn any new info

so here is the genitalia totally messed up... maybe you found there what is needed.
thanks for all the help to all,
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 It is Suillia pallida Smile
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It is Suillia pallida Smile
Andrzej


Hi Andrzej,

thanks. so in all this mess you have found something usefull.
Grin

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