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 Small, black... and unknown #2 (Brachycera) --> Scaptomyza cf. pallida (Drosophilidae)
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 28-11-2007 23:32
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Hello! Another small (3 mm) black fly, from our garden shed today (Ostwestfalen/Germany). I have no idea about the family... Sorry for the bad pictures. Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [29.04Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 29-11-2007 18:39 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 28-11-2007 23:33
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14350 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Another pic.
Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [16.73Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-11-2007 08:08
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Scaptomyza pallida, Drosophilidae.
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 29-11-2007 16:36
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14350 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Paul! Paul Beuk wrote: Scaptomyza pallida, Drosophilidae. Many thanks! Odd... Facing it in the garden I had the strong (general) impression of Scaptomyza pallida  , but when looking at the photos later, it seemed much too dark to me. Not like those from the last winter:http://insektenfo...entid=9684 http://insektenfo...entid=8732 Edited by Juergen Peters on 29-11-2007 18:38 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 29-11-2007 17:13
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
It is a Scaptomyza, but I can not tell if it is S. pallida or not.
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 29-11-2007 18:46
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Hello, Kahis! Kahis wrote: It is a Scaptomyza, but I can not tell if it is S. pallida or not. Thanks! Here in Germany there are 3 Scaptomyza species listed besides pallida: S. flava (this one doesn't look like as if it could have been named flava (yellow)), graminum and griseola (that would fit well: greyish, blackish). But I'm afraid, it can't be so easy...
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 29-11-2007 18:53
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Juergen Peters wrote: Hello, Kahis! Kahis wrote: It is a Scaptomyza, but I can not tell if it is S. pallida or not. Thanks! Here in Germany there are 3 Scaptomyza species listed besides pallida: S. flava (this one doesn't look like as if it could have been named flava (yellow)), graminum and griseola (that would fit well: greyish, blackish). But I'm afraid, it can't be so easy... Be very afraid  Most (European) Scaptomyza species vary in color. And there are at least two additional species I think should occur in Germany (S. consimilis and especially S. montana). Reliable identification is usually possible only from male genitalia.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-11-2007 19:53
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Still, I think pallida is the only one with this mesonotal pattern, though usually it is paler. Maybe the specimen was a little fatty or wet.
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