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Small, black... and unknown #2 (Brachycera) --> Scaptomyza cf. pallida (Drosophilidae)
Juergen Peters
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Hello!

Another small (3 mm) black fly, from our garden shed today (Ostwestfalen/Germany). I have no idea about the family... Sorry for the bad pictures.
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Another pic.
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Scaptomyza pallida, Drosophilidae.
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Hello, Paul!

Paul Beuk wrote:
Scaptomyza pallida, Drosophilidae.


Many thanks! Odd... Facing it in the garden I had the strong (general) impression of Scaptomyza pallida Wink, but when looking at the photos later, it seemed much too dark to me. Not like those from the last winter:

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It is a Scaptomyza, but I can not tell if it is S. pallida or not.
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Hello, Kahis!

Kahis wrote:
It is a Scaptomyza, but I can not tell if it is S. pallida or not.


Thanks! Here in Germany there are 3 Scaptomyza species listed besides pallida: S. flava (this one doesn't look like as if it could have been named flava (yellow)), graminum and griseola (that would fit well: greyish, blackish). But I'm afraid, it can't be so easy... Wink
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Juergen Peters wrote:
Hello, Kahis!

Kahis wrote:
It is a Scaptomyza, but I can not tell if it is S. pallida or not.


Thanks! Here in Germany there are 3 Scaptomyza species listed besides pallida: S. flava (this one doesn't look like as if it could have been named flava (yellow)), graminum and griseola (that would fit well: greyish, blackish). But I'm afraid, it can't be so easy... Wink


Be very afraid Smile Most (European) Scaptomyza species vary in color. And there are at least two additional species I think should occur in Germany (S. consimilis and especially S. montana). Reliable identification is usually possible only from male genitalia.
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Still, I think pallida is the only one with this mesonotal pattern, though usually it is paler. Maybe the specimen was a little fatty or wet.
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