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Panzeria puparum?
Jallehei
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Posted on 10-05-2021 10:11
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Hi
This fly was collected in SW-Norway 210520 in a dry flower meadow, I key it to Panzeria(Ernestia), but I am not confident that I am right. Hairy cheeks, black hairs, and crossed apical scutellar bristles, I make that P. puparum, any thoughts about that?

Jarl
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Zeegers
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Posted on 10-05-2021 11:10
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Hi Jallehei,

You are off, indeed. Panzeria is twice as large. This is Smidtia conspersa.

Theo
 
Jallehei
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Posted on 10-05-2021 11:30
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Zeegers wrote:
Hi Jallehei,

You are off, indeed. Panzeria is twice as large. This is Smidtia conspersa.

Theo


OK, Thank you very much, back to the key then and see where i got it wrong!!

J
 
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I am not sure which key you use. Prosternum is hairy and humerus should hsve 5 bristles with basal threein a triangle.
Oh, and the prae-alar bristle us strong ( all different from Panzeria!)

Theo
 
Jallehei
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Thank you, I am using the english translation of Tschorsnig& Herting, I went wrong in couplet 94, I see it now.
Thanks for your replies, there is a lot to learn!

j
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 12-05-2021 07:22
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Also use www.tachinidae.eu.
The more keys, the merrier !

You are doing fine, once you mastered the first 20 or so genera, life gets easier.

Theo
 
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