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 Hybotidae?--> Ragas unica (Brachystomatidae)
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 02-05-2021 05:59
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Is it possble to ID these? Collected males and females, Forest near dunes, the Netherlands may 2021 Lavendel attached the following image:  [242.66Kb] Edited by Lavendel on 15-05-2021 08:16 Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 02-05-2021 06:00
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 256 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Copula
Lavendel attached the following image:  [206.64Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-05-2021 08:37
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Looks like a Ptiolina (unless it is very small, 2 mm or less). If you have a few you can spare I can confirm under the microscope.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 02-05-2021 10:53
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 256 Joined: 10.11.07 |
I'am sorry, I did not mention the size. They are about 3 mm.  I thought the antennae didn't fit Ptiolina. You're going to recieve some soon. Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-05-2021 13:23
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04 |
The antennae are indeed not Ptiolina-like, but the only alternative I could think of in Rhagionidae was Spania (smaller than Ptiolina) but that gave the same problem. In the picture it is not visible there is a small apical stylus on the tip of the arista and that excludes Rhagionidae. Then remains only Ragas unica (Brachystomatidae, formerly Empididae). The shorter fork in R4+5 miht have set me on the right track but those two specimens I received today are much more easy to work with. 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 15-05-2021 08:15
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 256 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Many thanks for the explanation and ID!! I can imagine it is easier to work with the specimens themselves 
Kind regards, Sandra |
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