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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 11-11-2006 17:07
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7282 Joined: 19.11.04 |
1, 2, 3, 5a, 5b, 6, 10 - vicina 4 - vomitoria 7, 8, 9 - loewi Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 11-11-2006 18:28
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
No love for C. uralensis - or C. subalpina?
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| Xespok |
Posted on 11-11-2006 20:29
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I think this individual is a female C. vicina. Am I right?
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| Xespok |
Posted on 11-11-2006 20:30
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Lateral view of the individual from the last posting.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 11-11-2006 20:33
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9426 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Cheek looks all grey - I think C. vomitoria. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 11-11-2006 20:34
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
This is an enigmatic fly. I think this is not C. vicina. Is it C. uralensis? Another scenario is that this fly is not even Calliphora, but belongs to another genus.
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| Xespok |
Posted on 11-11-2006 20:36
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A view from the top.
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 12-11-2006 01:22
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7282 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Xespok - your first fly is Calliphora vicina. The anterior spiracle and the basicosta are pale, and I think the front of the genae are pale too. I can see no red hairs on the genae, so not vomitoria. Your enimatic fly looks like Protocalliphora or a related species. [By the way, it may be better to start a new thread with enigmatic flies - there's a danger of getting confused if there are too many species in a thread!] Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| pierred |
Posted on 12-11-2006 16:15
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 Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1448 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Nikita, pierred wrote: Is this also C. loewi? For me, this is whether C. vicina nor C. vomitoria. My question was mainly about the white strip along the inner part of the eyes. But this should not be a criterion if I understand your answer. Thanks anyway, as always. Pierre Duhem |
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| markop |
Posted on 01-05-2007 23:41
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 Member Location: Crete, Greece Posts: 91 Joined: 13.10.06 |
So, I guess this is C.vomitoria then (reddish beard on dark gena)? (Clicking the photo will take you to flickr, where you can view all available sizes) Edited by markop on 01-05-2007 23:42 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 01-11-2007 15:48
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9426 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Tony: Nikita - I think this is loewi. It would be good to have it in the gallery I filled some doubts about my two years ago C.loewi images among this large post. This time I had two dead pigeons to check the situation. It is: On broadleaf forest on very fresh carrion I collected C.loewi, when the carrion became older it replaced by C.vomitoria. Another Calliphoridae - Lucillia ampullacea was common either on fresh or old carrion. Carrion near sea beach attracted C.vomitoria, L.ampullacea, L.illustris and a hell lot of Ch.albiceps So, I regard ID of C.loewi as confirmed Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 01-11-2007 15:49 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 01-11-2007 18:38
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7282 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Excellent! Let's get those pictures in the gallery. 
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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