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 Chloropid - Hippelates proboscideus
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 30-11-2011 10:10
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Am I correct that this is an Ephydrid? Can genus be told? Size is 2 mm. Collected at UV light, June 10 2011, Florida, USA. Edit - I was wrong, it appears to be Chloropidae. bradbarnd attached the following image:  [14.42Kb] Edited by bradbarnd on 25-03-2012 02:04 |
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 30-11-2011 10:10
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 30-11-2011 11:37
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Looks more like Chloropidae to me!
Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 30-11-2011 23:08
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Member Location: USA Posts: 164 Joined: 28.07.11 |
Thanks Jan! I ran it thru a Nearctic key and it seems to be either Hippelates sp. or, perhaps, Apallates sp. I think the face is jutting forward as in Hippelates, but I have nothing to compare against. |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 09-12-2011 13:42
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Tricimba sp. I think, dear friend! 
Edited by Sara21392 on 09-12-2011 13:45 Sincerely yours Sara |
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 09-12-2011 22:20
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Member Location: USA Posts: 164 Joined: 28.07.11 |
!!!, many thanks |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 10-12-2011 08:00
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Seems you are still doubtful. Ok, for sure I'll ask to an expert, if I be wrong, will say you!!
Sincerely yours Sara |
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 12-12-2011 07:11
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Member Location: USA Posts: 164 Joined: 28.07.11 |
Sara21392 wrote: Seems you are still doubtful. Ok, for sure I'll ask to an expert, if I be wrong, will say you!! No, not doubtful, but excited that you gave me the correct ID! 
Edited by bradbarnd on 12-12-2011 07:11 |
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 06-02-2012 03:00
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Member Location: USA Posts: 164 Joined: 28.07.11 |
Question concerning this genus: are strong tibial spurs present on the hind tibia? |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 06-02-2012 20:29
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No, they don't have, did you find any strong spur on???
Sincerely yours Sara |
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 06-02-2012 20:50
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Member Location: USA Posts: 164 Joined: 28.07.11 |
Yes, this has a strong spur on the hind tibiae. |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 06-02-2012 23:04
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Do you have more photos of that?
Sincerely yours Sara |
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 07-02-2012 05:00
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Member Location: USA Posts: 164 Joined: 28.07.11 |
Yes, I took some more photos of hind leg, head, and thorax.
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 07-02-2012 05:01
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 07-02-2012 05:02
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Member Location: USA Posts: 164 Joined: 28.07.11 |
Thorax, dorsal view
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 07-02-2012 14:02
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Thank you very much for your notification, because your first pics didn't show this character anymore; According these new pics and the key, I think this is Arcuator genus. I don't have this species in my collection, and this is first time which I see that. Would you please tell me some information about area that you found it? Edit: I don't know about fauna of USA, It's better you check name of this genus in that list, and please tell me about result. thank you in advance.
Sincerely yours Sara |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 07-02-2012 16:05
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A species of the Apallates dissidens group (according to the Manual of Nearctic Diptera).
Edited by Paul Beuk on 07-02-2012 16:06 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 07-02-2012 16:28
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Thank you so much Paul! Anyway is new one for me, I am wait for other information about this species!
Sincerely yours Sara |
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| bradbarnd |
Posted on 07-02-2012 21:23
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Member Location: USA Posts: 164 Joined: 28.07.11 |
Here is a link to Sabrosky's 1980 paper where he proposed the genus Apallates: http://biostor.or...0a9675.pdf Regarding collection info, these were found in southwest Florida in a residential area. There was a ditch nearby (probably always with water in it), with part of a golf-course behind that. I have one specimen (this one) collected at UV light and four additional ones taken in a yellow pan trap. I am not sure whether this is then Apallates or Hippelates. Hippelates: "Facial carina well-developed but thin, separating distinct antennal grooves; lower marginal portion of face warped forward, and vibrissal angle at least slightly forwardly produced anterior to eye; face concave in profile; ocellar bristles well-separated, erect and parallel or slightly convergent" Apallates: "Facial carina at most weakly indicated on upper face, not distinctly separating antennal grooves; face not concave in profile; lower marginal portion of face not warped forward and vibrissal angle not produced anterior to eye; ocellar bristles relatively close together, erect and cruciate, at least at tips" This fly has cruciate ocellar bristles (as in Apallates) but I would say the lower part of the face seems to be produced forward (as in Hippelates). In the paper linked to above, it is said that in Apallates the hind tibial spur is small where in this specimen it seems quite large. I think if I had a copy of this paper (http://pubs.esc-s...alCode=ent I could find out the answer. |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 09-02-2012 01:09
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Thank you very much for your information, which was very complete and useful; Well, for sure it's better that you show your sample directly to a specialist, who can answer you perfectly. Terry Wheeler is one of specialist in Canada and he knows fauna of USA as well, it's his email address: terry.wheeler@mcgill.ca Hopefully he will help you. Just I'll be grateful to you in advance, if you type the result later, here! Good luck Edited by Sara21392 on 09-02-2012 01:35 Sincerely yours Sara |
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