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 Heleomyzidae on the snow
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:38
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 Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06 |
I found it yestarday near Wloszczowa.
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:38
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:39
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:49
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2431 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Really coming (see shoutbox comments !)  Probable female of Orbellia [i] hiemalis ! How many scutellar bristles ? (important to ID to the species level), Andrzej Edited by Andrzej on 10-01-2010 13:51 dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:50
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Hello Lukasz, it appears to me a fine female Eccoptomera. Most of the specimens, which I collected, were indeed collected on snow. cheers, Ruud ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:51
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
maybe 4? |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:52
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
If you put a knife on my throat I would say a E. emarginate Lw, but maybe others will have another opinion. Better to look at the specimen a bit closer cheers, ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:55
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:56
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
You agree Jorge?
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:57
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2431 Joined: 05.01.06 |
The body colouration is closer to my cat than to Eccoptomera
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:58
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
4 what? 4 Eccoptomera`s? No more. I collected them even sometimes in small series on snow in Budapest. I think I collected about 15 specimens. But I should check in my pc upstairs, and I am too lazy right now
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 10-01-2010 13:59
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
I should add here, honestly, that it is more than 10 years ago!
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 10-01-2010 14:01
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Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06 |
Fly is 8mm, 6 scutellar bristles. |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 10-01-2010 14:04
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
hmm, forget Eccoptomera then, they, as far as I remember have only 2 pairs. It is also pretty big then
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-01-2010 14:04
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
rvanderweele wrote: You agree Jorge? No. Just liked the way you begin the sentence: "If you put a knife on my throat I would say "  It is some Orbellia. which one, dunno. |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 10-01-2010 14:05
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2431 Joined: 05.01.06 |
So it is O. hiemalis  Andrzej dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-01-2010 14:07
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
there are many Orbellia around... I hope. How these flies can support such cold temperatures? WHich are the features that enables them to face such conditions? |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 10-01-2010 14:09
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Orbellia? Oef, when coming back to Holland I looked for years to Orbellia`s on snow. Never found them, while they were pretty common in Hungary. I collected some series even on the factory walls, where I worked as an engineer. At least every sunny day in winter I saw some. This was, BTW, O. hiemalis. O. cuniculorum I collected only once.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-01-2010 14:10
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
engineer? in which field? |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 10-01-2010 14:11
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2431 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Difficult to comments ! But it was probably shining at the moment ?
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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