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Mythicomyiidae - Cephalodromia or Cyrtisiopsis?
javig
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Posted on 02-09-2007 18:15
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Hello,

I have found this tiny fly (2,5 mm length) today. I have thought that they were the same species that I found in June (see Platypygus ridibundus in gallery: http://www.dipter...lbum_id=93). But later in the PC I see it's obviously a species different.

Location: Sierra Nevada, Granada, Spain. 800 m. altitude.

This is a Mythicomyiidae? A kind of Bombyliidae?

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and this I think is the male:

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thx
Edited by javig on 08-09-2007 22:46
 
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yes. Mythicomyiidae! por favor, tu lo sabes que a quiero mucho. Smile

The first photo is spectacular!!!! new lens? Grin
 
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Great sighting and pics. Also fits the thread Fly bubble blowing Grin
 
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Hello,

Andre wrote:
Great sighting and pics. Also fits the thread Fly bubble blowing Grin


I think one should make a link to this thread!!

There is no reason for the link about our pictures to win about the bubbles...
Pierre Duhem
 
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The long head suggests Cephalodromia or Cyrtisiopsis but we need to see the wing venation to decide which, discal cell open or closed respectively. Former genus not recorded in Spain but this is no reason to exclude it.
 
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~discal cell open, hence this must be Cephalodromia sp. Smile
 
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Jorge, you have very good eyes! LOL

this is a crop of one discarded photo, but show the wing venation a bit... poor quality Sad

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which is the discal cell? Frown

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and it has really a discal cell open! Smile


DISCAL CELL ... is below M vein. And it is open in this wing venation.
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great thread the "bubble blowing" Smile and a interesting mystery... Frown

then it's Cephalodromia? the wing venation match Cyrtosia? (3 species in Spain, also with discal cell open (S?guy))
 
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as mentioned earlier, the long head (lower, rear corner extended backwards) suggests Cephalodromia, but i will put it no stronger than that. i do not think it is Cyrtosia (but would not be astonished if i was proved wrong), S?guy is not much help for Iberian species, or indeed French! His E perfectus is presumably Empidideicus hungaricus Thalhammar, 1911; his C. cinerea is Apolysis cinerea (in a different Family, Bombyliidae, Usiinae. If you want more confident identifications then you MUST collect specimens.
 
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I would like to see these photos in gallery as Cephalodromia sp. with a (?)
-- Cephalodromia sp. (?) -- it would be a pity if these great photos don't appear in gallery. Smile
 
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Neal Evenhuis confirmed that this is Cephalodromia IF it has *REALLY* the discal cell open, as David Gibbs told correctly. According the photo, it seems that discal cell it's open, so it is almost sure about the genus - Cephalodromia sp. It would be great to have other photos to be certain 100%.
 
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can you see the discal cell here?

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discal cell open. 100% free of doubts.
 
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That is what this is.

Fantastic photo. i'm framing it!

-Neal Evenhuis
 
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Hey, Neal, I see your avatar got stranded... Wink
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i hope to find one Cephalodromia this year...
 
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