Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Gray Muscids with partially reddish legs

Posted by Juergen Peters on 22-11-2007 23:27
#1

Hello!

Three male Phaonias (?) from today in our garden/at our house (Ostwestfalen/Germany). All the same species? Thanks in advance!

Posted by Juergen Peters on 22-11-2007 23:28
#2

Same species?

Posted by Juergen Peters on 22-11-2007 23:28
#3

Another individual.

Posted by Susan R Walter on 23-11-2007 09:58
#4

The middle one's got the Phaonia bristle.

Posted by Juergen Peters on 23-11-2007 16:19
#5

Hello, Susan!

Susan R Walter wrote:
The middle one's got the Phaonia bristle.


Thanks! Not the first time I have read here about the "Phaonia bristle", but still I'm not sure where to look for it... :(. I have no such specialized literature to look into, so please could you or someone else mark it on the photo or explain where to find it? Many thanks!

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 23-11-2007 18:12
#6

Given the visible characters, my guess is Phaonia scutellata, but I can't be sure.
The "Phaonia bristle" is the strong posterodorsal seta on apical third of hind tibia.

Posted by Juergen Peters on 23-11-2007 18:34
#7

Hello, Stephane!

Stephane Lebrun wrote:
Given the visible characters, my guess is Phaonia scutellata, but I can't be sure.
The "Phaonia bristle" is the strong posterodorsal seta on apical third of hind tibia.


Many thanks! But I must admit that I still can't see an especially strong bristle on the hind tibia on pic #2 :(. I see many bristles on all femurs, but no special on the tibia... Or is it the one marked with an arrow? Does it belong to the tibia?

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 23-11-2007 19:26
#8

I have to correct my guess : I think it is Phaonia tuguriorum rather than P. scutellata judging by the frons width.
The "Phaonia bristle" is above the one you marked (wich is an apical bristle on t3). I marked it in blue.

Posted by Juergen Peters on 23-11-2007 19:32
#9

Hello, Stephane!

Stephane Lebrun wrote:
I have to correct my guess : I think it is Phaonia tuguriorum rather than P. scutellata judging by the frons width.
The "Phaonia bristle" is above the one you marked (wich is an apical bristle on t3). I marked it in blue.


Thanks again! Now it is clear.