Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphora or Bellardia?
Posted by Carnifex on 19-10-2020 23:07
#1
Is with these phots an ID possible?
Body length 6,5mm. Vienna, mid October.
Edited by Carnifex on 02-11-2020 08:08
Posted by Zeegers on 20-10-2020 07:01
#2
I’d say a male Calliphora loewi, nice.
We need to see the wing base slightly from above, lateral or anterolateral. To establish the colour of basicosta.
Theo
Posted by Carnifex on 20-10-2020 09:01
#3
Thanks, Theo. I had a look at the basicosta, it is black.
However, I understand that this species is more northerly distributed, so I assume it prefers colder (and moist?) environments. So I wonder if this species is to be expected in the city area of Vienna, where it is rather hot and dry...
Posted by Zeegers on 20-10-2020 11:34
#4
It is probably overlooked.
In the Netherlands, records (just a few) are from September - October. When it is cold.....
Theo
Posted by Carnifex on 20-10-2020 11:54
#5
I will gladly accept the ID :-)
Is
C. vomitoria var.
loewi a synonym?
Posted by Zeegers on 20-10-2020 16:09
#6
No doubt synonym, though I have never seen this combination, pretty strange.
Probably very old (?).
Theo
Posted by Carnifex on 22-10-2020 21:28
#7
Now found out, it comes from here:
http://ubio.org/b...ID=6616088
--> Calliphora vomitoria var. loewi Enderlein 1903
Edited by Carnifex on 22-10-2020 21:28
Posted by Zeegers on 23-10-2020 07:30
#8
Well, I think this shows dumping all kind of names in a database is useless, unless one can verify its source. Probably / Possibly some old book was scanned and plundered for names.
In any case, This opinion ( of loewi not being a valid species) is rejected by all modern authors. Check Rognes “ Calliohoridae Scandinavica”
Posted by Carnifex on 23-10-2020 20:29
#9
Yeah, this name was apparently imported from ubio.org into the database for inaturalist.org where the name now represents the species (or ssp. in this case). Will change this error.
Posted by Carnifex on 02-11-2020 08:07
#10
Waldgeist pointed out that this one looks more like a Bellardia, so here are some additional images from the head and calypters
Edited by Carnifex on 02-11-2020 08:07
Posted by Zeegers on 02-11-2020 09:23
#11
Now you mention it, the bluish colour seems to be an artifact of the light.
Theo