Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tipulidae - Tipula?

Posted by Sundew on 07-10-2007 22:15
#1

Hi,
Is there a chance to identify this Tipulid from Berlin? I guess it is not too rare, and the wing pattern is conspicuous. Something like Tipula scripta?
Thanks, Sundew

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 08-10-2007 02:47
#2

Tipula sp. I think. Young will help here. ;)

Posted by Chen Young on 30-10-2007 15:43
#3

Any further id needs take a peek of the genitalia......:o

Posted by Chris Lewis on 01-11-2007 07:53
#4

I seem to be working on the same fly. I think Philippe Moniotte's tipulid posted 31/10 is also the same though this fly measures ~13mm from palps to genitalia. I will send some more detailed pictures in the hope of a specific ID. This one was found in the Isles of Scilly regularly during late October

Posted by Chris Lewis on 01-11-2007 07:56
#5

Lateral head and thorax

Posted by Chris Lewis on 01-11-2007 07:58
#6

Lateral abdomen

Posted by Chris Lewis on 01-11-2007 08:00
#7

Dorsal thorax

Posted by Chris Lewis on 01-11-2007 08:03
#8

Try again

Posted by Chris Lewis on 01-11-2007 08:04
#9

Wing

Posted by Chris Lewis on 01-11-2007 08:05
#10

and genitalia dorsal slightly extruded

Posted by Chen Young on 01-11-2007 19:44
#11

The genitalia suggested this crane fly is in the subgenus Tipula (Savtshenkia) group. Oosterbroek listed four species that occur in the Isles of Scilly: Tipula eugeni, T. jeekeli, T. serrulifera, and T. trinacria. Hope this will provide you with some lead.

Posted by Chris Lewis on 01-11-2007 22:45
#12

Thank-you. Interesting - three of the species you mention do not seem to appear on the British List (according to Dipterists Forum) and the remaining one (serrulifera) appears to be an endangered montane species. I'll keep searching - but may have to settle for Savtshenkia group.

Posted by Sundew on 03-11-2007 12:05
#13

Thanks to all that contributed to this thread! If even Chris's detail photos do not lead us further than to subgenus Tipula (Savtshenkia) group, we should gratefully accept this ID.
Sundew