Thread subject: :: Mythicomyiidae - Cephalodromia or Cyrtisiopsis?

Posted by javig on 02-09-2007 18:15


I have found this tiny fly (2,5 mm length) today. I have thought that they were the same species that I found in June (see Platypygus ridibundus in gallery: http://www.dipter...lbum_id=93). But later in the PC I see it's obviously a species different.

Location: Sierra Nevada, Granada, Spain. 800 m. altitude.

This is a Mythicomyiidae? A kind of Bombyliidae?

and this I think is the male:


Edited by javig on 08-09-2007 22:46

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 02-09-2007 19:40

yes. Mythicomyiidae! por favor, tu lo sabes que a quiero mucho. :)

The first photo is spectacular!!!! new lens? :D

Posted by Andre on 02-09-2007 20:45

Great sighting and pics. Also fits the thread Fly bubble blowing :D

Posted by pierred on 02-09-2007 21:48


Andre wrote:
Great sighting and pics. Also fits the thread Fly bubble blowing :D

I think one should make a link to this thread!!

There is no reason for the link about our pictures to win about the bubbles...

Posted by David Gibbs on 03-09-2007 09:15

The long head suggests Cephalodromia or Cyrtisiopsis but we need to see the wing venation to decide which, discal cell open or closed respectively. Former genus not recorded in Spain but this is no reason to exclude it.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 03-09-2007 10:02

~discal cell open, hence this must be Cephalodromia sp. :)

Posted by javig on 03-09-2007 19:45

Jorge, you have very good eyes! LOL

this is a crop of one discarded photo, but show the wing venation a bit... poor quality :(

which is the discal cell? :|


Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 03-09-2007 20:00

and it has really a discal cell open! :)

DISCAL CELL ... is below M vein. And it is open in this wing venation.

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 03-09-2007 20:03

Posted by javig on 04-09-2007 18:58

great thread the "bubble blowing" :) and a interesting mystery... :|

then it's Cephalodromia? the wing venation match Cyrtosia? (3 species in Spain, also with discal cell open (S?guy))

Posted by David Gibbs on 05-09-2007 09:15

as mentioned earlier, the long head (lower, rear corner extended backwards) suggests Cephalodromia, but i will put it no stronger than that. i do not think it is Cyrtosia (but would not be astonished if i was proved wrong), S?guy is not much help for Iberian species, or indeed French! His E perfectus is presumably Empidideicus hungaricus Thalhammar, 1911; his C. cinerea is Apolysis cinerea (in a different Family, Bombyliidae, Usiinae. If you want more confident identifications then you MUST collect specimens.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 05-09-2007 09:23

I would like to see these photos in gallery as Cephalodromia sp. with a (?)
-- Cephalodromia sp. (?) -- it would be a pity if these great photos don't appear in gallery. :)

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 08-09-2007 02:25

Neal Evenhuis confirmed that this is Cephalodromia IF it has *REALLY* the discal cell open, as David Gibbs told correctly. According the photo, it seems that discal cell it's open, so it is almost sure about the genus - Cephalodromia sp. It would be great to have other photos to be certain 100%.

Posted by javig on 08-09-2007 22:45

can you see the discal cell here?

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 09-09-2007 12:36

discal cell open. 100% free of doubts.

Posted by nealevenhuis on 22-02-2008 06:05

That is what this is.

Fantastic photo. i'm framing it!

-Neal Evenhuis

Posted by Paul Beuk on 22-02-2008 08:03

Hey, Neal, I see your avatar got stranded... ;)

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 22-02-2008 12:20

i hope to find one Cephalodromia this year...