Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Psila sp (Psilidae)

Posted by crex on 24-06-2007 17:14
#1

Location: Near Stockholm, Sweden
Date: 2007-JUN-24
Habitat: Park. In the shadows.

Can't find a similar in the gallery. At first I thought the red markings was something wrong with the individual, but I found another similar fly about 100 metres away. No anterior photo.

Individual 1

Edit: Changed subject (Orange fly)

Edited by crex on 25-06-2007 06:06

Posted by crex on 24-06-2007 17:15
#2

Individual 2 (dorsal)

Posted by crex on 24-06-2007 17:18
#3

Individual 2 (lateral, almost)

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 24-06-2007 17:23
#4

Psilidae, Psila ?

Regards.

Posted by crex on 24-06-2007 17:33
#5

Ahh, didn't realize Psilidae could be that big. I think this was the size of Scatophaga stercoraria ...

Thanks again Stephane!

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 24-06-2007 17:40
#6

no.. psilidae are almost bare... Scathophagidae usually has many microtrichia. ;)

Posted by crex on 24-06-2007 17:44
#7

Ehh, well, I was talking about the size. Nothing else :p

Posted by Kahis on 24-06-2007 23:02
#8

Psila sp. (it should be possible to tell the species, but I don't remember which one has a black spot at the base of arista :()

Posted by Darwyn Sumner on 08-07-2007 21:14
#9

We've only two Psila in our British list. in P.fimetaria there is a darkened area on the third antennal segment surrounding the base of the arista. This is not present in P.merdaria.
Do watch out for others, though. Shatalkin (Russian) describes P.andreji, P.hexachaeta, P.iwasai, P.kovalevi, P.megacephala, P.silacruscula, P.musiva & P.negrobovi. Presumably these things might get out of Russia.
I would be grateful for anyone who would be prepared to translate this paper into English - perhaps then we can begin to keep a proper eye out for them.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 09-07-2007 14:22
#10

Being Russian I still quite aggree with Darwyn that it isn't good idea to write scientific articles on Russian (Chinese, Franch....)
I'll contact with Anatoly Shatalkin and make this article available in month or 2.
Nikita

Posted by Darwyn Sumner on 09-07-2007 20:52
#11

Thanks very much for that offer, Nikita.
I'm sure you know which articles I mean (and perhaps you know of more) but just in case, here's a list of Anatoly Shatalkin's articles that I have referenced within my interest groups of Nerioidea & Diopsoidea (I run the UK recording scheme for them):
Shatalkin, A.I.. 1995(1994) Palaearctic species of Pseudopomyzidae (Diptera). Russian Entomol. J.. 3 p.129-145
Shatalkin, A.I.. 1996 Psila sp.. . p.880-884
Shatalkin, A.I.. 1981 Clareola crassula sp. n. (Pipunculidae) and Strongylophthalmyia raricornis sp. n. (Strongylophthalmyiidae), new peculiar Diptera from USSR.. Zool. Zh.. 60 p.791-793
Shatalkin, A.I.. 1993 On the taxonomy of the flies of the family Strongylophthalmyiidae (Diptera). Zool. Zh.. 72 p.124-131
Shatalkin, A.I.. 1989 Notes on the palaearctic Psilidae (Diptera). Archives Zool. Mus. Moscow State Univ.. 27 p.88-113
Shatalkin, A.I.. 1995(1994) Palaearctic species of Pseudopomyzidae (Diptera). Russian Entomol. J.. 3 p.129-145

The species I listed in the above thread are spread over 2 separate papers, of which I have photocopies. Please forgive my ignorance of the Russian language, I did buy a dictionary but have come to the conclusion that one needs to be very skilled in both languages to translate sensibly.
Darwyn