Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Neuroptera - Chrysoperla species?

Posted by Markus Gebel on 13-05-2007 13:09
#1

Hello

Today I found this very beautiful insect (10-12mm) in my garden. This insect reminds me for "Chrysoperla", but I don't known what kind of insect that is.
Who can help me?

Foto: Germany - Garden - 13.05.07

best regards
Markus

Edited by Markus Gebel on 13-05-2007 13:10

Posted by ChrisR on 13-05-2007 17:04
#2

It is a neuropteran but not of that genus. It is from the family Hemerobiidae, the brown lacewings, but I think they are a bit tricky to identify even with a specimen.

Posted by Markus Gebel on 14-05-2007 08:35
#3

Hello Chris

Thanx for the "half" determination.-) To find the exact name of this hemerobiidae, is not easy. Perhaps one specialist will give us an exact answer.:-)

Greetings

P.s.: The german name of hemerobiidae is .... Plantlouse-Lion:)

Posted by Markus Gebel on 14-05-2007 10:43
#4

Info:

I think thats very nearly Micromus variegatus.

http://www.microp...egatus.htm

Edited by Markus Gebel on 14-05-2007 10:45

Posted by kitenet on 17-05-2007 21:28
#5

It has a recurrent humeral vein, so I don't think it can be Micromus. Looks more like Wesmaelius to me, possibly subgenus Kimminsia but can't say more than that :(.

I like "plant-louse lion", presumably along the same line as ant lion for Myrmelionidae?

Martin

Posted by Markus Gebel on 18-05-2007 17:52
#6

@haematocephalus: Thanx for your posting.:-)

Another hemerobiidae-specialist from germany, told me today, that the hemerobiidae of my foto, looks like "Wesmaelius subnebulosus". His ID wasn't definitely, because it's not possible without control of the genital organs.

Thanx a lot... your ID "Wesmaelius" was very good;)

best regards
Markus

Posted by Andrew Whittington on 24-05-2007 19:54
#7

Markus

I would normally agree that the genitalia are required, but in this instance I think we can do better than just the genus. The specimen has only three radial veins, making it a member of the subgenus Kimminsia, of which there are rather few with such distinctive markings. The markings rule out W.(K.) subnebusosus, so I would even hazard that it is W.(K.) fassnidgei. Are you in southern Germany?

I love the clarity of the photo!