Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phaonia subventa?

Posted by Juergen Peters on 13-12-2006 09:27
#1

Hello!

Still photographing Muscids... ;-). Are all these from our house wall and from trees at the forest edge from yesterday (Ostwestfalen/Germany) females of Phaonia subventa? Length about 10-12 mm. Thanks!


www.foto-upload.de/diptera/061212/Phaonia_cf_subventa_W1.jpg

www.foto-upload.de/diptera/061212/Phaonia_cf_subventa_W2.jpg

www.foto-upload.de/diptera/061212/Phaonia_cf_subventa_W3.jpg

www.foto-upload.de/diptera/061212/Phaonia_cf_subventa_W4.jpg

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-12-2006 14:19
#2

Hi Juergen.
1. I think 1,2 and 3,4 - two different flies.
2. Accorning my key 3,4 fits with Ph. rufiventris - 1ac presut, antennae yellow/black. But as I wrote in:
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=4501&pid=20044#post_20044
currently I have doubts in my key.
Nikita

Posted by Juergen Peters on 13-12-2006 15:02
#3

Hello, Nikita!

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
1. I think 1,2 and 3,4 - two different flies.


Pics 1 and 2 are different individuals, 3 and 4 show the same animal, if I remember correctly this time.

2. Accorning my key 3,4 fits with Ph. rufiventris - 1ac presut, antennae yellow/black.


On 3,4 I could not see the dark middle band often on the abdomen of P. subventa. That would favour P. rufiventris of course. But it's not clearly visible because of the wings...