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We both posted - 15 minutes apart. The comment on the presutural ac's was mine. The Fonseca key was misleading. Adrian is in South Africa.Witing for Tony We must have a forum on the photos we have so far. More photos of correctly id'd flies would be a great help. I cannot do these myself atm but can lend pinned material det. A.C. Pont. Any offers for the photography?

Robert