Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Thrips sp. ?? and others

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 25-08-2006 18:03
#1

Hi

I took this image today, 25th August 2006, in Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL. I put a pitfall that caught some very interesting insects and spiders.

Spiders belongs to the Gnaphosidae family. (all 4)

1 - Thrips sp. ???
2 - Wasp --- which family? it is wingless
3 - acari ??
4 - Collembolans

Posted by proctoss on 25-08-2006 18:38
#2

"1 - Thrips sp. ???
2 - Wasp --- which family? it is wingless"

1 - Staphylinidae (Coleoptera)
2 - Mutillidae (Hymenoptera):)

Posted by Paul Beuk on 25-08-2006 19:13
#3

And I agree with 3 and 4. ;)

Posted by cthirion on 25-08-2006 23:03
#4

Number one..................Staphylinidae B)!

Half Elytron!!!!!!!

Calamity Camille:D

Posted by cthirion on 26-08-2006 10:23
#5

4" not 1"= thrips!


3= mite in english (acarien)

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 26-08-2006 10:56
#6

cthirion wrote:
4" not 1"= thrips!


3= mite in english (acarien)



Yes, it is mite. Sure.

But the 4 I think I have almost 99% sure that is collembolan. It is very different from Thrips sp.

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 26-08-2006 15:36

Posted by Jan Willem on 26-08-2006 13:55
#7

I think Jorge is right about 4 not being Thrips but Collembola.

Jan Willem

Posted by cthirion on 27-08-2006 21:56
#8

On this photograph, number 4 has parts of different density on the body, the collemboles are more uniform in their structure............... but here it is very small, I am not sure! ?
?Strong dish for collemboles! ?

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 27-08-2006 22:23
#9

cthirion wrote:
On this photograph, number 4 has parts of different density on the body, the collemboles are more uniform in their structure............... but here it is very small, I am not sure! ?


?Strong dish for collemboles! ?


the collembolan are very similar to this: http://www.geocities.com/fransjanssens/images/hopkin/2002/neanorum.jpg


I saw it with a small loupe... :)

Posted by cthirion on 27-08-2006 22:33
#10

You see, not zone of shade on all the body! ?

?At the thrips, one sees the wings lying on the back! ?
?on your photograph, one sees zones of shade! ?

?But as long as I would not have a specimen seen under the magnifying glass........! ?:D

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 28-08-2006 08:48
#11

Oh... I see. The right one.. has a black spot... it's dust! :))
The fine pelicule of water is not so clean... :(

Posted by LordV on 05-09-2006 11:22
#12

My guesses would be
1. Rove beetle
3. Weevil
4.wasp ?
Brian V.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 05-09-2006 12:12
#13

LordV wrote:
My guesses would be
1. Rove beetle
3. Weevil
4.wasp ?
Brian V.


Hi Brian

4 never could be a wasp, 100% sure. I know this photo is not great. But I'm sure about this. This is indeed a collembolan.
3- seems more like a mite. Really I?m not sure about 3., indeed.

Thanks!

Posted by Jan Willem on 05-09-2006 12:29
#14

Hi Jorge,

3 is Acari, no doubt!

Jan Willem

Posted by LordV on 06-09-2006 09:19
#15

As a complete coincidence think I shot the same type of mite this morning (3) under 4:1
Brian V.

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Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 06-09-2006 10:08
#16

LordV wrote:
As a complete coincidence think I shot the same type of mite this morning (3) under 4:1
Brian V.




wow!!! This is incredible! Fantastic "Micro" world!!! Acari with two red spots... and a very tiny insect.

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 06-09-2006 10:10

Posted by Tony Irwin on 06-09-2006 14:15
#17

Brian - I think this has got to be the best shot of a predatory mite in action I have ever seen. I raise my pooter to you! B)

Posted by Jan Willem on 06-09-2006 14:30
#18

What about its victim, is it a psocopteran?

Jan Willem

Posted by LordV on 06-09-2006 18:32
#19

Thanks Tony- I didn't realise these were predatory- thought it was just an opportunist, I have a few mmore shots of it as well :). Jan yes think it is a bark louse it's eating.
Brian V.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 06-09-2006 21:18
#20

Yes, the Bdellidae are important mite predators. One species has been used in Tasmania for control of the "Lucerne Flea" - a destructive collembollan. Your photo shows the silk threads with which these mites tie down their prey before feeding.
An astonishing photo, reminiscent of some of the early screenshots from "Half-life" - (you may need to ask a gaming geek for an explanation - show them the image, and they'll know what I mean!) ;)

Posted by LordV on 07-09-2006 06:10
#21

Thanks Tony for the futher info- used to play Half-Life so know what you mean. Mind you many of the shots I take remind me of film monsters etc :)
Question- I've been told the red spots on the side are not it's eyes and that they are above the antennae. If true what are the red spots ?
Rganks again
Brian V.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 07-09-2006 10:08
#22

I think your informant may be a little confused. Mites don't have antennae. The red spots are eyes.

Posted by LordV on 07-09-2006 11:16
#23

Thanks Tony :) But if the two feelers on the front are not antennae what are they ?
Brian V.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 07-09-2006 13:48
#24

LordV wrote:
Thanks Tony :) But if the two feelers on the front are not antennae what are they ?
Brian V.



I think that those "feelers" are the palps.. ;)
They look like tiny short legs, and are used for sensing things and grabbing prey.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 07-09-2006 13:52
#25

LordV wrote:
Thanks Tony :) But if the two feelers on the front are not antennae what are they ?
Brian V.


If you see care between the palps of mite you can see chelicerae that are the mouthparts.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 07-09-2006 18:10
#26

Jorge is right - they are palps - well developed in the Bdellidae and characteristically bent with long terminal bristles. The chelicerae are the eating implements - sometimes having crab-like claws, sometimes with piercing stylets. All fascinating stuff. If it weren't for flies, I think I'd spend my time with mites! :)